<<< All Aboard the Crazy Train

So Gene Nation has decided to step it up a notch. Post the destruction of Coney Island, Sack kidnaps an anti-mutant spokesperson -- well known in the news -- who may or may not have connection to SHIELD (former agent, maybe the husband of an agent that died in Coney, whatever). Either way, they (Sack, Marrow) take their captive to the subway and hijack it, holding everyone hostage under the threat that if the authorities shut down the power, they'll kill everyone. Sack will be controlling the advocate-guy the entire time, spouting anti-human rabble over the radio and intercom with his voice. Of course, GN's intentions are to crash it, so he messes up the controls and the subway train goes rogue. Marrow will be ( I think ) running security on the train, maybe wearing a police uniform or something, but I'm not too sure about that.

On the flip side, this plot is aimed to give SHIELD something to do. Stop the criminals (who will inevitably escape), save the hostages, and bring the train to a stop.

The thing is a set-up, trying to shock the city into realizing their "crimes against mutanity." It probably won't work, but it should draw some real attention by the fuzz to GN's activities. It'll be the start of a campaign against anti-mutant groups, all of which will be bloody.

But, more or less what it'll be about. Ideally, this should give SHIELD some action (if they want to do it).

Any ideas/suggestions/comments are always appreciated. It's early in the morning and I suck at writing right now and I realize I apparently have a thing for train heists, what's up with that?

Participants
Sack
Marrow
Eden
Warbird
Wind Dancer

Eden's down for it...I wonder how effective SHIELD will handle something as small scale and mundane(in comparison to Coney Island) now that Hodge is ash scattered across the skeletal remains of Murderworld?

Carol is in.

Sofia is in as well if there's still room for another SHIELD agent

Oookay. I think we got enough participants for a bit of SHIELD vs Gene Nation. Obviously, this will extend a bit further than just Gene Nation and eventually (probably, I assume) involve the Morlocks being discovered. I'm not sure whether this will cause them to have to fall back into the catacombs of New York and I highly doubt it, but it will probably involve the Morlocks being discovered by SHIELD. How will this change things? Well, probably not much. It seems more likely that SHIELD will essentially ignore the existence of the Morlocks and leave them to their own devices, maybe doing some occasional check-ups for health since they're living in the dank tunnels. For the most part, I assume they will be looking for Sack and Marrow. Being the wanted CAGE prisoner, serial killer than he is, they'll want to find him. I am okay with the Morlocks betraying Sack for their own gain, as SHIELD could threaten to reveal them and force them to leave the tunnels to some other location. Sack would do the same to them and they probably know that.

So, we need Morlocks to give their say about the consequences because that will happen. I don't see SHIELD doing much besides looking for Sack and Marrow and maybe take one or two NPC GNers under suspicion. But yeah, I believe Sack and Marrow will be their primary targets. Right now we're just dialoguing the consequences, so any help will be appreciated.

I'm wondering if we could tie this into a Mutant Massacre. Someone in SHIELD finds out about the location of the Morlocks in the tunnels and they contact the FoH or hire a private gruop (Marauders, mayhaps?) and the Morlocks get attacked. After that, Gene Nation can call for retribution and kill a human for every Morlock killed. SHIELD and friends stop them, GN gets captured and the plottage ends. There will probably be another thread or two, but yeah, that'll be it.

But yeah, consequences. Discuss 'em.

Well I'm thinking for consequences that some of the Morlocks would feel pretty invaded. Being ignored for most of the time and then being discovered that they live there. I think that some would flee, others would fight, and some might just vanish deeper into the sewers. The ones I'm thinking of that would vanish would be the NPC ones, and the ones that fight/flee would be the PCs. I think the main way that I would make my decision for Anansi would be to follow the thread and then base his reaction off of that. But that's just what I have in mind. I'm not sure how that would work with the other Morlocks, I'm just speaking for myself,

Since Anansi really doesn't truly hate all humans, he would probably put up some fight but in the end would probably either go to the mansion, considering I'm working on a thread where he gets injured and saved by a X-man and a student. Depending on how that goes *shrugs*. For now though I think that would be my idea of what the Morlocks would do it SHIELD came down into the sewers looking for Sack and Marrow. While he wouldn't betray them he would fight for his personal survival.

I think there could be several directions that the Morlocks could take after this takes place. I know that some would like very much to turn in Sack and Marrow if SHIELD comes knocking. Eldan will not do well with any mixing with SHIELD, thanks to his board history with them. I'm not sure if he'd lose his temper or not, it'd depend on the situation. But he wouldn't give any of the Morlocks up to them. Though he does not condone violence leading back to bite the Morlocks.. if they can't cover their tracks they don't have any business doing it/ putting the others at risk.

I do like the idea of involving the mutant massacre, we've discussed that before, and it could be a basis for a move. If they stay there, they will still retreat further into the tunnels [think where the Moloids had been] and hide the entrance to their home tunnels. There's also the option of them shifting to Sanctuary. Or a combination of the two; some could leave and others could dig in, depending on their stubbornness... I don't know how things will turn out. But Eldan will not put up with SHIELD regularly sticking their noses into their business. If it'd be acceptable for them to move or if they'd rather stay and struggle on... as a group or split up. Sorta need more input from the others to know how they'd go.

We have to tread very lightly here, I think. Depending on the outcomes of the actual attack, a massive Morlock exodus into Sanctuary could spell the dissolution of the entire faction. As for myself, I think if SHIELD came knocking, and threatened some sort of corporal action against the Morlocks as a whole, Marrow would give herself up ultimately. This is the fundamental line in how far she'd be able to go that divides her from Sack.

While I'm sure Sack wouldn't feel any regrets with bailing on the Morlocks/using them as bait to cover his own escape (do correct me if I'm wrong :P) Marrow herself wouldn't want to see mutants getting killed over herself, so if Marrow's capture over this has to come, let it come. The consequences will be heavy, but it will give her something to chew on, until she possibly gets rescued.

Either way, for the Morlocks as a whole, I have no idea how Maria Hill will be handling things as opposed to Hodge, but I can see SHIELD shooting first and asking later in light of recent events. They just had their asses handed to them in a fight with Mutant Terrorists. I don't see them wanting a whole new enemy budding right below New York. And, while again, I'm all for the drama and excitement that a battle between the Morlocks and SHIELD could entail, we have to get everybody's input on this, because it is something that will change the entire faction.

There have been worries expressed that The Morlocks are becoming a sort of 'Brotherhood Lite', and, as far as I know, this is not the case. Gene Nation is entirely separate from the Morlocks as a whole, just in the same way that Al Qaeda is not representative of the entire Muslim people. At the moment, they're still living amongst the Morlocks. If Gene Nation is still able to continue on, I'd say odds are that they would branch of and leave the Alley. New York has no shortage of tunnels. Besides, I do believe Tim has already stated that Gene Nation will ultimately crash and burn, its just up in the air as yet to how that fall will come.

Anyhoo. Yes. We need every active Morlock to pitch their two cents in here. It's important.

I might have a possible solution...

Eldan, I talked to you about this a while back. Basically, after these attacks, Shield will be looking for these people. Well, Carol comes into the sewers to have a look. Possibly with a few human agents along with her, or not. Whatever the case may be, she can have a run in with the Morlocks and either be captured, or have a run in with Eldan (who I think is in charge?). Long story short, Carol is a mutant agent that sees the world as Shield has wanted her to see it for quite some time. Eldan spills the beans on some unsavory things that Shield has done to the Morlocks... Carol checks up on it... and there you go, the Morlocks have a sympathizer within Shield.

She would be able to use her status to deflect attention away from them, is what I'm thinking. Perhaps this might one day be a thing that is detrimental to her career, who knows... but it is just an idea that I have. When I talked to Eldan about it before, we really didn't have a reason for Carol to be poking around in the sewers... but after this subway thing, they'd be looking high and low for the perps.

Warbird, I love it, wraps it together nicely. Yes, Eldan is technically in charge of the Morlocks, and I'd be happy to thread.

I was only stating the Sanctuary thing as an option, as the Morlocks seemed to be splintering off, a large portion of them were going to be slaughtered, and for the ones that remain... what they do with themselves isn't completely dependent on what the Morlocks as a whole decide. If they're going to stick together, I like the idea of them digging in in the former Moloid tunnels. This could include them running into the remnants of the Moloids, possibly a toxic one borrowing from a previously planned plot, before being able to make that their home. With a SHIELD sympathizer I think this could be rather less disastrous to the faction.. if the 'locks could be convinced of her sincerity.

Any case. The other Morlocks should put their two cents in, because the only ones that have contributed to this discussion beside me are the ones that will be leaving the faction, or never have been part. People who will actually deal with the consequences are more than welcome to join in.

So a follow up to the attack would have SHIELD on Sack and Marrow's tail. They end up in the tunnels and the Morlocks have a bit of conflict with the SHIELD representatives (Carol and whomever else).

I'm in concurrence with the idea that the Morlocks not go to Sanctuary. I think they'd try to hold up or move deeper in the tunnels where they can keep themselves secure.

Sack is willing to betray the hell out of the Morlocks for his own gain, but inevitably they'll betray him back. He'd be breaking his deal with Callisto to be in the Morlocks and that, as well as everything else would be getting him ejected from them. Unlike Marrow who would turn herself in if she saw the damage, Sack won't. He'll either abandon them to whomever for his own gain.

Gene Nation will crash. Sack will be caught and forced out of the Morlocks through his own mistakes or by the counter-betrayal. I haven't decided where Sack is going afterwards, but the GN resolve will probably dwindle back down to talks behind closed doors. This plot isn't going to go on much longer and I'm sad it didn't get much bigger, but it's time to keep things rolling and make a mess of the human world. Whether the Morlocks become "Brotherhood Lite" is up to those who stay. I see the Morlocks pretty much staying as they are. GN is just a personal thing that some of the Morlocks have gotten involved in.

I think that, relatively speaking, we can't say much more than what has been said. Only 4 of the Morlocks (myself, Marrow, Eldan, and Annie) have given any input and I don't really see the others all that often any more. Whether we'll get that or not, that'll be their deal if they don't want to be part of the important Morlock stuff. More SHIELD input would be awesome, too, from Maria/Justice. Seriously, any suggestion/discussion helps. I'd like to get this plot rolling before Christmas.

Generally speaking, from what has been said, I think it's going to go like this:

Sack and Marrow do the train business, SHIELD puts a stop to it.

SHIELD maybe follows Sack and Marrow into the sewers and they branch out their search, coming upon the Morlocks eventually. Eldan and friends get confronted, given an ultimatum by SHIELD ("tell us or we'll deal with you", or something). As of then, the Morlocks would have no idea what Sack and Marrow would be up to, but since the Morlocks are being told my the authorities I think it gives their lingering suspicions (that Sack and Marrow have been out doing things) some good proof. They could betray Sack and Marrow's intent (maybe they heard Sack and Marrow talking about doing something else, which can be the final part of the plot) and SHIELD can give them supplies or whatever is worked out.

I really don't see much changing with the Morlocks besides changing their location. I don't think we'll bother with the Mutant Massacre, but the Morlocks can do their Moloid stuff and whatnot. Continuous Morlock input is desired.

After the Morlocks get interrogated, I believe Sack and Marrow's next step would be the final part of the GN plot. We just need to talk about what we're doing, so SHIELDies watch out.

If the staff feels we have done enough, please let us know so we can get this started.

Maybe its just a typo, or I'm not getting the plan, but it looks like the start is a typical "false-flag" mission, which ok, cool. But I don't get why they have the guy spouting anti-human sentiment. It makes a lot more sense to me if he's spouting anti-mutant sentiment if the idea is to shock the city about how terrible they've been treating mutants. The same way some people think that Westboro Baptist Church is actually a homosexual or atheist group trying to make Christians look bad. Just pointing that out.

Anyways, if it came down to all the Morlocks leaving the tunnels (into Sanctuary,) I think that means the end of Sarah being with the Morlocks. Hell, just blowing up a train car would give Sarah, who has Israeli cousins, pause. She'd definitely would be in the camp to sell Sack and Marrow down the river.

I agree with Satyr. If Marrow and Sack came back into the tunnels with SHIELD following them and having to move, Anansi will probably turn Sack in. Marrow he's not so sure, he likes her and puts up with her and probably thinks that she could be redeemed. Sack he knows would sell him out if he could for his own gain. Also the destruction of a train or something would probably give him pause, not really expecting the Morlocks to be violent or reach that stage of violence. My two-cents again.

Tidus would probably follow whatever Eldan does, because he is a little follower. He wouldn't agree with turning Marrow in, because he actually likes her. Sack he has no real opinion on.
I'm pretty game for whatever happens, because it sounds like fun, no matter what direction this goes in.

For my part... the Sanctuary thing would be a last resort type thing. Just sounded like everyone was all splintering off to different factions or not posting/giving a damn about something that could easily have a huge impact on the faction as a whole. If that isn't the case, I'd be happy to work further on the idea of digging in to the Moloid tunnels.

If Sack betrays the Morlocks, yes he will get shoved out on his ass for going back on his promise to keep the Morlocks out of his messes. Directly selling him to SHIELD, not so much, particularly since it would be a 'we already kicked his ass out of here' situation. Nothing more that they could help SHIELD out with there. Marrow, if she refuses to stop, if she goes with Sack, then that's that... if she even returns to the tunnels after the stuff with the subway.