Title: Night 7 planning
icicle_knight - August 10, 2008 07:28 AM (GMT)
fire_gym_leader will be lynched Day 6, we easily have majority so it should be over in no time.
I found out that I am being inspected Night 7, I might use my non-kill ability to stop this inspection from working on me.
Andenken can go for doopers or whoever you want I guess.
Mr. Dodrio you should aim at karate_explosion.
So that we obtain the triforce, Amelia should probably aim at Blooper while I aim at Ernest or vice versa (if I decide not to block the inspection).
That will leave the Powerful with 6, the Courageous with 8 and us with 8, as well as Din, Farore and I.
I am also expecting another Powerful to die, probably ipl.
Acredula - August 10, 2008 07:32 AM (GMT)
Why do you care if anyone is gonna inspect you lol
We have to time our attack properly; as you can see even with 8+3 = 11 there are still 6+8 = 14 to oppose us
icicle_knight - August 10, 2008 07:53 AM (GMT)
ok then amelia should kill ernest/blooper because he was inspected night 6.
I don't want to be inspected because then later on I will become a huge target for lynching which will probably screw our chances depending on how late it is.
This is really confusing someone help!
Here are the factors:
1. Courageous has a village killer - do not tell anyone that we know of this (even though it is pretty simple to infer).
2. Twinrova is yet to be unleashed.
3. Powerful probably have a sacrificial guy for ganon just like we did and courageous did.
4. We know who Link is, the Powerful has a good idea about this.
5. We know who Ganon is, the Powerful does not know we know this - do not tell them.
6. Powerful roles include morpha (currently unknown role), ganon, barinade, that stupid powerful inspector or whatever (who is probably Pillowrath), Koume, volvagia (probably has no role at the moment), supposedly master sword but probably a fairy to save ganon.
7. Courageous roles are mainly unknown other than that they have multiple inspectors, numerous masks, a scavenger, Link, Zerowing's role and Nabooru.
8. We have one kill, me and the Moon again from Night (10?).
9. There are currently 11 courageous (soon 10), 7 powerful and 8 wise as well as an unknown god, a known god and me.
I don't know what the "powerful inspector" is in fact it might actually be ipl's night role.
Can anyone make some huge plan which tries to take everything into account? -_-
Day 6 - fire gym leader dies, useless courageous role
Night 7 - vig killer takes out ipl, powerful take out random courageous, silence random courageous, andenken steals mask off doopers, we find out who karate_explosion is, amelia kills ernest and gets triforce of courage.
Variables: Earthworm is inspected-
Earthworm kills Powerful fairy/Courageous now know Earthworm's alias
Earthworm prevents inspection-
Earthworm kills nobody/Courageous do not know who Earthworm is, Earthworm claims mask thief stole an 'uninspectable' mask from powerful so that the courageous assume icicle_knight is the mask thief and skye sweetnam remains a mystery until skye is inspected the next night
Amelia has Triforce of Courage, Earthworm has Triforce of Power/Earthworm remains enigmatic.
Day 7 - Powerful have no idea wtf is going on.
Koume is lynched by Courageous + Wise-
and hell is unleashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Powerful and Wise lynch a random courageous-
Powerful and Courageous lynch Wise member-
Night 8 - ok too many variables.
Acredula - August 10, 2008 08:10 AM (GMT)
We need to not moon anyone tonight imo.
We can save the moon, there's no one pressing to moon anyway, we can get the powerful to kill streetpkmn. We need to run the calculations properly so that after we kill everyone on the night that we have majority vote the day after. The count is: -1 dark link, -1 giant, -1 moon, -1 silencing triforce, -1 powerful kill, +1 couple's mask, +2/-2 din/farore. That's a total of 10 votes changed in one night.
After that it's pretty simple to win. We can still continue with this alliance, I don't think the powerful will betray us just yet anyway.
Also we should try to unleash twinrova today/tonight. The earlier it's done, the better, as Hip said. We'll have more ways to counter it and have more time to recover from the damage. We also don't want it fucking us up after we have majority.
Diamond Ness - August 10, 2008 09:06 AM (GMT)
Let's get Koume during Day 7 then.
For night 7, I think it's best you try and avoid inspection... we don't want anyone to know that we have a neutral on our side as well.
Also, since they think we have limited kills, they probably don't know about you and your unlimited kills.
Acredula - August 10, 2008 03:45 PM (GMT)
Factors to consider involve:
Is Kumar really ganon blargh blargh blargh
Can gods fix an alliance
Those are the main ones, we cant' afford to fuck up the count.
Diamond Ness - August 11, 2008 04:50 AM (GMT)
Actually this is probably a big question.
Why did toothache lie?
Because he didn't want Ernest to be lynched.
Why should he not want Ernest to be lynched?
Is it because he's Link?
Or he has a powerful mask that he needs to give away.
Either way... if he gave away his mask we just lost an advantage.
Edit: O, and one more thing. If Koume is being lynched and Twinrova is being... well unleashed, i've got a feeling it has to do with the voters dying. So if Koume gets lynched, don't lynch along.
icicle_knight - August 11, 2008 05:58 AM (GMT)
icicle_knight - August 11, 2008 06:54 AM (GMT)
It might not be a good idea to turn on the Powerful just yet.
It is the top of my priority list to find out which Powerful alias currently has the kill power. If anyone can somehow get this information is would help us out a lot.
I will be killing Ernest tonight, Amelia may want to idle another night or two before killing Blooper I guess since the Powerful will be down to 6 after Night 7 almost certainly.
At the moment it looks like the numbers will be:
After Night 7, depending on whether or not the Powerful also target Ernest. If Amelia kills Blooper or the "possibly existent" Powerful Fairy then there will be 5 Powerful.
To win, we are going to have to get the Gods on our side, preferrably get the Couples mask or whatever, get majority over Courageous and Powerful and remove (at least) the Powerful killer. We aren't -that- far away. Then again, there is still Twinrova :(
Acredula - August 11, 2008 06:57 AM (GMT)
amelia that won't work because what happens in twinrova is killed and not lynched?
Diamond Ness - August 11, 2008 09:09 AM (GMT)
Then the killer dies. And probably a few teammates with him.
Look, after Koume and Koutoke dies, it can't be they are resurrected as Twinrova, all we have to do is to lynch them again. Instead, the more possible solution is that they kill some of the people who lynched them, or maybe they kill their killer and the killer's teammates.
Acredula - August 11, 2008 09:28 AM (GMT)
I assumed that they kill people off the other teams randomly. It doesn't make sense because the powerful could have killed koume and kotake themselves (they were considering it at some point). So what, are the powerful gonna hurt themselves now?
Diamond Ness - August 11, 2008 09:30 AM (GMT)
Remember, no one knows what Twinrova does when Koume/Kotuke dies. So... anything's possible. It might even backfire on the powerful.