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Title: Editing Help


athos - February 24, 2006 12:10 AM (GMT)
This forum is really the most inactive of this board. Anyway, I've just got Photoshop CS2 and I don't know how to use some of the new features like Noise Reduction and Vanishing Point for editing. Anybody cares to explain? Also, does the Spot Healing Brush tool any good with editing manga?

Sox - February 24, 2006 12:38 AM (GMT)
i don't use ps cs2 but just googled your questions and

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/photoshop...reducenoise.htm

maybe it will help you, maybe not, can't do better anyway. Generally you have to experience that all alone.

lambchopsil - March 3, 2006 02:49 AM (GMT)
How do you vector?

Sox - March 3, 2006 06:57 AM (GMT)
first read Khell's tutorial about the pen tool

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/2275/pentutorial1copy2bj.jpg
http://img288.echo.cx/img288/6268/rebuildi...rialcopy6uv.jpg


then a few links:

http://www.tutorialized.com/tut_header/11336
http://www.heathrowe.com/tuts/vector.asp
(taken from here: http://www.graphic-design.com/Photoshop/tu...10-04_pen.html)

now if you wanna do some coloring using vectoring:
http://www.virtualinfusion.net/showthread.php?t=348
(posted previously by Idontrememberwho)

there are a lot of techniques about coloring and vectoring especially about effects (shadowing and stuff) the best thing to do is to experiment and after ask precise questions.

Sox - March 3, 2006 11:04 PM (GMT)
ok as the editing school is dead... back on vectoring and coloring and stuff

look at that concrete example Lamb,

original (denoised)
user posted image

final

user posted image

only colors

user posted image


You know if you wanna start some vectoring then train yourself at coloring it's the easiest way to start, later i'll teach you or advise you on the pen tool... just work on color and effects first.

Ask questions if needed

Fiery - March 11, 2006 04:33 PM (GMT)
Hi, i am currently learning how to edit manga. I just want to ask if any editer out there would like to share their way of using level or curves tools to clean the scan.

I amd still having trouble deciding how much is too much and how much is too little leveling. They kinda all look the same to me >.>

Thank you in advance~

Sox - March 14, 2006 06:44 AM (GMT)
First read this thread, the level and curve tool are discussed there
http://s4.invisionfree.com/aquastar/index.php?showtopic=2206

Secondly it's hard to answer your question because the levelling depends of the quality of the raws and of course then of the configuration of the scanner… oh and I don't use the curve tool it ruins textures more than the levelling, the best method being to clean scans with the lasso/magic wand tool when the levelling isn't really needed.
Anyway a useful link about levelling:
http://www.questie.com/manga/ScanEditGuide/editing.htm

If you have more questions or want to precise a special point just ask… as long as Naota disappeared and no one replaced him I'll try to post on this part of the scanlation school when I have the time.

athos - March 16, 2006 10:37 PM (GMT)
I have another question regarding Photoshop CS and CS2. Do you need 1GB to run it smoothly, perfectly? My Photoshop sometimes freezes up on some particular pages (particular spots of the picture, actually). I'm getting a PC and I don't know if I should have 512MB or 1GB RAM (of course I prefer 512 MB because it's cheaper).

ZhangKhaiEn - March 17, 2006 12:34 AM (GMT)
depends on how many threads you use along with your CS2.

Mine runs smooth with 256 ram.

aznricekid - March 17, 2006 01:03 AM (GMT)
I have 384 mb of ram and i suffer from the gayest lag to ever show itself on this planet.

But i have CS2 too and it runs just fine. Just a bit of lag when i decide to have more than winamp open at the moment T_T .

@Fiery
Its mostly up to you how much is too much leveling. You level until the majority of the blacks are black and whites are white. Sometimes you cant level it until the whole thing is white or black because theres just some junk on the page that you'll have to either manually erase or use the quickmask tool.

lambchopsil - March 17, 2006 05:57 PM (GMT)
I myself have 512 and CS2 works fine for me. (Unless I'm running ageisub at the same time...)

Fiery - March 21, 2006 05:25 AM (GMT)
I use CS2 also, with about 512MB RAM. Althought i let CS2 occupate about 400MB at any given time XD.

And that warp tool is nut!, never have to use clone for bended line anymore.

And if anyone have any tip regarding the new features of CS2 that can make manga editing easier, please share :)

lambchopsil - March 27, 2006 07:19 AM (GMT)
I think you better ask specific questions or else you'll get no answer...

g_of_7 - May 9, 2006 03:19 AM (GMT)
I did this one quite a while back for a good (?) buddy of mine, but it's been bugging me that I couldn't fix it well. (I basically utilized a hair transplant to cover the white spots at the last panel, but if you look closely at the edited version, it looks unnatural.)

I was wondering what you guys would've done with this quandary that I have here:

Original Scanlation
user posted image
Edited Scanlation
user posted image

It's just gettin' to me that I couldn't have done any better on this one.

athos - May 9, 2006 03:57 AM (GMT)
Kano, Sox, or shaoron may know better about this than me, but what I would do is:

1. Create a layer and re-draw the hair lines with Pen tool.
2. Use Clone Stamp to re-color the blank.
3. Put the text with 3-px stroke over the spots that aren't well rebuilt.

Important: Use common sense instead of cloning everything onto the blank.

g_of_7 - May 9, 2006 04:29 AM (GMT)
Yaaa, thanks for the help, Athos-dono.

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