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Title: FIGHT! For the Konoka Mascot!
Description: Japanese translators badly needed!


Saru Pop - March 14, 2005 02:23 AM (GMT)
Okay, here's the deal. After what amounts to probably 8 hours or more playing Konoka's fortune-telling game on the desktop CD-ROM, I still can't get the mascot. The problem is that while it's otherwise similar to Kamo's quiz game (which you have to play to get Nodoka), there's no way of telling whether you're answering correctly or incorrectly without being able to read the text for yourself, which I can't. Throw in the fact that there are at least 49 questions and you get a (random?) selection of like 7-10 each time, and the chances of me getting the mascot by pure chance any time in the next MONTH are pretty slim.

As far as I know, it's also not available anywhere else online--the only person I know who has it is Jupiterstar and he doesn't share software. (I contacted him way back when I was having trouble installing the programs.) Of course if anyone knows where we CAN get the mascot, let me know, and problem solved--heh.

What I've done is this. I screencapped all the different questions I came across after playing the game about 20 times in a row. Took like two hours! I came up with 49 (it's likely there's one more or something, if I find it I'll cap that one too). That's a lot of work. So my first question is, is ANYONE willing to help me unlock the mascot? I don't expect one person to do all the translating, although if someone feels insane(ly charitable of course!) and wants to, be my guest. If more than one person's willing to help, hell, if anyone's willing to do even ONE question, that'll bring me one step closer to getting the mascot for us.

The second question is what I should do with the 49 images if anyone does want to help. They're about 60KB each, I compressed them quite a bit (the kanji's still readbale though). Should I just post 50 image links in this thread? Zip them and put them up for download? (The file'd be about 2 MB.) Make a mini-website with 10 pics per page for everyone to go through as they please? Other suggestions? And no, I can't torrent, I'm sorry.

After I get the mascot I will of course upload it and post it here for all of us to share, as thanks.

Anyone? Bueller?

Reika - March 14, 2005 02:26 AM (GMT)
wow o_o you sure go all out for your Negima stuff dontcha?

but alas I'm no help in this area, I'm sure the grumpy professor O_o will help you on this.

Sydney2K - March 14, 2005 02:32 AM (GMT)
So, basically you're playing the monkeys/typewriters/Shakespeare game, except in this case...

get enough Aquastar Negima posters to...

play the fortune telling game, and...

win the Konoka mascot?

Widya Santoso
--
"Hey! Who are you calling a monkey???"

Saru Pop - March 14, 2005 02:32 AM (GMT)
Eheheh . . . I like Konoka . . . :P

Oh, I should also clarify that I'm not looking for like, flawless translations with perfect grammar. That's too much work for anyone to handle on this project, unless we get a significantly larger group than I think we will. Just a general gist of what's going on would help tremendously.

Here's an example of one of the images:

user posted image

O_o - March 14, 2005 02:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Reika @ Mar 13 2005, 09:26 PM)
but alas I'm no help in this area, I'm sure the grumpy professor O_o will help you on this.

Too bad I don't know any Japanese. :(

Saru Pop - March 14, 2005 02:35 AM (GMT)
More like get enough of them to translate a question for me so I can play it and have a chance of winning, heh. The monkey thing is pretty much what I'm doing now--trying to win it by chance. It's not working at all. If I know what at least some of the program is saying, I'll have a much better chance . . .

Wakuseino - March 14, 2005 02:45 AM (GMT)
Hnn... Ok, I'm lost, but I can generally translate anything in Japanese I HEAR, with a website or two... thing is, not so good with Kanji, so unless it's sounded, I can't id it.

jdennis007 - March 14, 2005 03:35 AM (GMT)
I am not sue if this will help or not this website has a Kanji to English dictionary that you can download.http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/japanese.html
The name of the site is Jim Breen's Japanese page. I hope this helps.

Fixen - March 14, 2005 04:31 AM (GMT)
This game looks crappy, no offense. XD

Sorry, can't do Japanese.

AKOL - March 14, 2005 05:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Fixen @ Mar 13 2005, 10:31 PM)
This game looks crappy, no offense. XD

Sorry, can't do Japanese.

it probably is crappy. The only reason anyone would play it is to unlock the Konoka mascot...

Wavehawk - March 14, 2005 05:31 AM (GMT)
...which is the entire point of the game anyway.

SUFFER FOR KONOKA-OJOUSAMA!!!

Saru Pop - March 14, 2005 06:28 AM (GMT)
Heh, yeah, it's not a regular mini-game. You can't even get to it from the mini-games section--it's only there in story mode and that's all it does is get you the mascot. No animation or anything (except Konoka wiggling her staff around, which is admittedly pretty cute). It sucked rather a lot playing it for so long (which is the main reason why I want translations!).

And the questions don't get read out loud, so I can't help you there, Waku-san. :(

QUOTE
SUFFER FOR KONOKA-OJOUSAMA!!!


KONOKA WE'LL SAVE YOU!

meganeshounen - March 14, 2005 08:45 AM (GMT)
Ay, ay, Saru's really hellbent on nabbing teh last mascot...

I'll just cheer ya guys on. ^_^

Chachamaru - March 15, 2005 01:30 AM (GMT)
That be easier if I knew Kanji.. Damn it if only remember Kanji..... I Need Konoka. why why is she the hardest one to get.

Skie Fortress - March 15, 2005 01:47 AM (GMT)
isn't it possible that some japanese person might have gotten konoka by now? :ph43r:

meganeshounen - March 15, 2005 01:50 AM (GMT)
Well, you can't just type into Babelfish:
"Negima Konoka desktop mascot"
Then translate it and put it into a Japanese search engine (excite.jp), then expect proper results...

(Already tried it XD, no response)

If we had a Nihongo speaking person then that'll help.

AKOL - March 15, 2005 04:03 AM (GMT)
i only know like, 12 Kanji.

From that picture, all i got was:
Konoka, Card, Kiss

And i have no clue about the answers.

sudz - March 15, 2005 05:04 AM (GMT)
Unless you get someone who A) knows Japanese well or B ) Willing to type out all of the Japanese Kanji characters so that they could have others Babblefish it, there is not really any point in posting the questions up.

*Edit* Had a bit of Japanese typing before, but decided to delete it cause not everyone know about encoding, nor do I want to give the idea that I know how to type Japanese.

Lukekul - March 16, 2005 11:13 AM (GMT)
((WORK IN PROGRESS))

Ok, since I have waaaaay too much spare time, I figured I'd help out on this one. Bare with me, coz my kanji is not great, and I'm only working with dictionaries here (I don't have my kanji books or text books with me).

[Blue Box up top]
Konoko-san (who doesn't have an eye for [something] goods???), has made it her objective to get a card by kissing with you. How?

[Box 1]
Because it can't be helped, (sorry, don't know what hoppe means, and babelfish isn't working for me, so I'll have to do this later)

[Box 2]


[Box 3]

I'll have to do the rest of this later, I need my kanji books - I should know all of these... keyword being should ^^; I'll pick them up early tomorrow (I run on GMT +10 time, just so you know), and get it done at about lunchtime.

If possible, could you please e-mail me a better quality version of this image Saru Pop? Some of the more complicated kanji just appear a little fuzzy with this version, and clicking on it just takes me to imageshack.us... my e-mail is Lukekul@gmail.com

Saru Pop - March 16, 2005 07:41 PM (GMT)
Wow, thanks! If you are willing to help with any number of these (like I said, I don't expect anyone to do them all, although if you want to that would rock, heh), I think what would be best is if you let me know how many you want to take on and I can ZIP them up for you and send them to you. After ou have them, you can let me know which ones you need better images of, because not all of them have complicated kanji in them. The thing is . . . I don't actually have a better version, since there were so many to save and the high-quality ones were taking up so much room. So to get better versions of all of them, I'd need to go through everything again, heh. :o But yeah, if you need a better version of certain ones, it wouldn't take that long.

Lee - March 16, 2005 08:15 PM (GMT)
To save you from extreme tired-ness I give you this?

http://www.magical-negima.com/cdrom.php

Hope that makes you the happiest person alive. >>;

KempoCatholic - March 16, 2005 08:18 PM (GMT)
No Konoka mascot there. <_< We already have that site.

Lee - March 16, 2005 08:21 PM (GMT)
Boo....

Then might as ell get a japanese person to do that.... you don't see alot of them. >>;

Lukekul - March 16, 2005 09:52 PM (GMT)
Ah, ok, in that case don't worry about getting a better image for now (sounds too hard :P ).

EDIT:

Answered my own question, I should really read thru old stuff before posting :rolleyes: . Ok, send me all of the images and I'll take a shot at it this weekend - I need to practice my Jap anyways. If anyone wants to help out, that'd be cool, otherwise you'll have to bear with the guilt of ruining my action-packed weekend ;)

Deviantspy - March 16, 2005 10:01 PM (GMT)
Help is always welcomed here. :)

Chachamaru should also be able to help Saru Pop. He did say that his nationality is Japanese.

Maybe someone should try contacting him? :lol:

Chachamaru - March 16, 2005 10:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Deviantspy @ Mar 16 2005, 05:01 PM)
Help is always welcomed here. :)

Chachamaru should also be able to help Saru Pop. He did say that his nationality is Japanese.

Maybe someone should try contacting him? :lol:

Maybe Very busy wtih all these other stuff like school and this thing im translating and Playing lots of OLD SNES game again . Classic are nice..

ILL help KONOKA IS WANTED SO badly!!!!!!!

Saru Pop - March 19, 2005 04:32 AM (GMT)
Okay, I e-mailed the zip file to Lukekul and the Aquastar account, so everyone should be able to access it (PM me for the GMail account name and pass if you need it). If the zip file doesn't work I can try again, I've had that problem before with big files. (Big for me on dial-up, anyway). It took me like half an hour to upload though because my connection sucks, so I might not get to it right away, heh.

claman - March 30, 2005 04:07 AM (GMT)
user posted image

Just wondering but is anyone working on this........ :P

j111 - March 30, 2005 04:08 AM (GMT)
It takes time... Give them a little while.. Hopefully nobody forgot about working on it..

Chachamaru - March 30, 2005 04:09 AM (GMT)
It coming along. It just Kanji is pissing me off!! Then Trying to find words meaning.... Need more dictonary!!! and Some Coke and Sake and Water!

claman - March 30, 2005 04:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (j111 @ Mar 29 2005, 11:08 PM)
It takes time... Give them a little while.. Hopefully nobody forgot about working on it..

Sorry.... :P

user posted image

Kitana - April 3, 2005 02:09 AM (GMT)
Nah..not good at translating...

Pikaash2586 - April 3, 2005 02:15 AM (GMT)
On a posting rampage Kitana? ^^

claman - April 3, 2005 02:17 AM (GMT)
Posting rampage.....I better go on one too.....

Any updates on the mascot.....

Kitana - April 3, 2005 02:45 AM (GMT)
Yep, posting rampage, coz Silvy's gonna reach 1000, better catch up...

claman - April 3, 2005 03:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kitana @ Apr 2 2005, 09:45 PM)
Yep, posting rampage, coz Silvy's gonna reach 1000, better catch up...

I'm with Kitana...

Kitana - April 3, 2005 10:43 AM (GMT)
Hey, claman, how bout it? We in the same boat, trying to reach 1000 posts before Silvy does...?

claman - April 3, 2005 11:03 AM (GMT)
You bet!!

Kitana - April 3, 2005 11:10 AM (GMT)
Okay!

claman - April 3, 2005 11:12 AM (GMT)
But lets not try to spam our way there like we're doing now..... <_<




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