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| Neko_Arc01 |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 01:17 AM
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True Arc-cestor! Group: Scanlation/Fansub Projects Team Posts: 3,108 Member No.: 7,615 Joined: 11-November 07 |
Magister Negi Magi isn't the first anime/fiction to use what are/were effectively Magi-Ministra pairs.
Since we've got three weeks before another chapter, how about giving two-to-four Magi-Ministra pairs you like from current or past anime/fiction. Personal Favorites: Negi-Asuna: Magister Negi Magi Shiro-Sabre: Fate Stay Night Arcuied-Shiki: Lunar Legend Tsukihime Kethry-Tarma: M. Lackey's Valdemar Chronicles Other examples: Konoka-Setsuna: Magister Negi Magi Linna-Gourry: Slayers Marron-Gateau: Sorcerer Hunters Miyu-Rava: VP Miyu Raquel-Shannon: Scrapped Princess Sakura-Syaoran: Card Captor Sakura Kasche-Cuervo: Monster Collection Mai-Yuuichi: Mai Hime Natsuki-Yuuichi: Mai Hime Nakahito-3 S.Angels: Steel Angel Kurumi Have fun! Let's see what kind of a spread we can produce! |
| Trowa |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 01:32 AM
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Magister Magi Group: Members Posts: 7,582 Member No.: 5,528 Joined: 11-April 06 |
Well this looks interesting. I'll throw mine out.
Negi-Asuna Like you couldn't guess Negi-Setsuna Something about these two together interigues me Rin-Archer I liked it more than Shirou-Saber honestly Nakahito-Kurumi This was just too cute Out of curiousity can Shirou-Rin be considered a pairing? Ok thanks. BTW I know Archer=Shirou. I meant Shirou as seen in F/SN. |
| Neko_Arc01 |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 02:24 AM
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True Arc-cestor! Group: Scanlation/Fansub Projects Team Posts: 3,108 Member No.: 7,615 Joined: 11-November 07 |
Of course. Since A****r is Shiro by another name. |
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| blackseven |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 05:32 AM
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Advanced Magic User Group: Members Posts: 460 Member No.: 4,189 Joined: 13-August 05 |
Can you define "Magi-Ministra" pair more? I'm assuming you mean fighter (tank) plus caster (nuker), but you put in a lot of mixed pairs.
I mean, Slayers action focused more on the group of 4 than Lina/Gourry persay. All of the group is pretty capable in hand to hand, and Gourry does not really "tank" for Lina (except in a few early fights). I mean, how would you divide Zel/Amelia? Zel's the better close combat fighter... but he's probably ALSO a better caster. Plus, even in Negima, many of Negi's minstra are bad on the frontline. Good thing he's a figher mage now, but if he went with backline caster, that would totally leave out the Library Trio as potential "permanent" minstra. Also remember that "Ministra" is female. Rin/Archer would be Magi-Minister. Does the Magi-Minister/Ministra team require some sort of romatic connection? I guess by Raquel-Shannon the answer is no (no incest jokes please), but I wanted to make sure. Naruto would work well for this but the teams operate in threes. However the idea would be to pair someone who prefers taijutsu with a ninjustu/genjutsu user. Asuma (Minister) and Kurenai (Magi) works pretty well as tank/nuker. Shikamaru and Temari, though I'm not sure which is which. Temari's better at absolute wreckage but I have trouble calling Shikamaru a tank.... Honestly most other animes I can think of seem to operate more in teams that don't break conveniently into Magi/Minister pairs. In video games, JP style console RPGs do provide tons of examples, but also many exceptions... Cecil/Rosa (FFIV) Edge/Rydia (FFIV) Cless/Mint (Tales of Phatasia) Chrono/Marle OR Chrono/Lucca (Chrono Trigger) Alex/Luna (Lunar:SS) Squall/Rinoa (FFVIII) - not mechanically (magic is wierd in that game) Zidane/Garnet (FFIX) Steiner/Vivi (FFIX) - no strong emotional connection but they have combo techs etc. |
| Neko_Arc01 |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 11:41 AM
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True Arc-cestor! Group: Scanlation/Fansub Projects Team Posts: 3,108 Member No.: 7,615 Joined: 11-November 07 |
Ah! I did forget the Minister-Ministra bit.
Perhaps a better definition would be mage-parter. Mostly I meant pairs, 'tank-nuker' as a base, but mixed-style also aceptable, who fight together. (Frodo-Sam would qualify, though neither is really a mage. Zatch-Kiyo would also qualify.) Romantic interest is a plus but not required. (I would count Zel-Amelia, and Fellia-Xellos in a romance category, though Fellia would never admit it.) Naruto might be an exception. (Forgot the trio style teams.) Nakahito(talisman user,) + three Steel Angels(various tank-types,) is stretching things. Negi + 31 would be un-acceptable. Mostly I was thinking about the different fantasy stories and anime people may have read or watched, but because of SF and Hi-Tech, there might be pairs from that type of genre as well. (Does Neo have a 'partner?') Any parters in old Brian Gibson cyberpunk? What are fighting pairs (or small teams,) everyone else likes from current or past fiction/anime? |
| ledah |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 12:25 PM
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need help with psp Group: Members Posts: 2,785 Member No.: 7,405 Joined: 10-October 07 |
but cecil is a paladin and rosa is a healer the 2 uses white magic , so if cecil can heal what the hell he need rosa ?
could be too cloud, tifa and aeris ( r.i.p) |
| AdmiralTigerclaw |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 02:23 PM
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Fleet Commander, Advanced Astral Physics User Group: Members Posts: 1,797 Member No.: 6,297 Joined: 16-November 06 |
Both use white magic. But recall, Paladins are faith warriors. So the Paladin would probably be a demon killer, excorcist, etc. Different sub-catagory of White Magic. |
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| Esperman |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 02:27 PM
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He who changes things at the last moment... (Ayase of AQS...) Group: Members Posts: 4,657 Member No.: 4,742 Joined: 9-October 05 |
Well, it really isn't magic oriented, but Takamine, Kiyomaru/Gash Bell... (Kiyo/Zatch Bell for those who watch the dub...)
Though I'd probably have to say that my favorite pairing in that show is probably Reira/Al... (<- I forget Reira's bookkeeper's name... Alber-something...) |
| Maedhros |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 05:16 PM
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Magister Magi Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Member No.: 6,247 Joined: 23-October 06 |
Tama-chan/Kamo-kun.
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| Neko_Arc01 |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 06:02 PM
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True Arc-cestor! Group: Scanlation/Fansub Projects Team Posts: 3,108 Member No.: 7,615 Joined: 11-November 07 |
So, instead of "Moose and Squirrel," ('They' would actuallly qualify, the smart one and the goofy tank.) It's "Turtle and Ermine?" (Lizard and Ermine?) Well, Tama can preform a naked blade stop, and is armored, and Kamo(Chamo?) can use a little magic, so I guess that would work. Now, if you mean Johnny's Tama, then it's a tank so big an enemy won't see the magi riding it (Kamo) as they are trampled into the dirt by a ton plus of stampeding lizard. (edit: below post)blackseven Filia/Xel: Im probably biased because of the anime thing of 'hate leads to love.' He was a bastard-demon in human form who slew many dragons, and she a powerful Gold dragon in human form, who just might be able to take him. But it would be a war of mutual annihilation. Bad for both, so they worked together, and I guess they felt less animosity for each other in the end. (Unrelated: They are are common pair in dou's.) |
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| blackseven |
Posted: Dec 28 2007, 07:18 PM
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Advanced Magic User Group: Members Posts: 460 Member No.: 4,189 Joined: 13-August 05 |
The FFIV Paladin is mostly a straight up physical fighter with a very small smattering of White Magic: Cure1, Cure2, Exit, Heal, Scan, Sight. Basically Cure 2 was his most used spell, and that was out of battle to give Rosa's MP a break. Paladin-type classes in FF do not tend to have a "specialized" spell list like D&D. Basically as a Minister/Magi pair, Rosa would keep Cecil healed as he wrecks stuff. She's pretty weak on offense but it works. edit: I'm not sure about Filia/Xel. They do not have a "flirty abuse" (like Gourry/Lina) relationship but one based on genuine hatred. Xellos is a demigod (almost) of pure evil, and Filia is a mortal (dragon, but still mortal) being of mixed good and evil. It's not so much as they would never admit it as that at the end of Slayers Try, they are probably not going to try to kill each other on sight. I think they moved from "immediately violently hostile hatred" to "delayed violently hostile hatred." |
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| Neko_Arc01 |
Posted: Dec 30 2007, 10:54 AM
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True Arc-cestor! Group: Scanlation/Fansub Projects Team Posts: 3,108 Member No.: 7,615 Joined: 11-November 07 |
Well, I guess my threads gonna croak...
Anyway, One last blatantly Magi-Minister pair I forgot: Rashya and Miguel from Ruin Explorers. |
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