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 Negi's scar
spike12
Posted: Feb 3 2008, 11:53 AM


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I was wondering, Negi got his scar across his left cheek during the Mahorafest Budakai(sp) turnament right?
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Maedhros
Posted: Feb 3 2008, 12:08 PM


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Yes. Setsuna's was the one who made that scar. =]
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Trowa
Posted: Feb 3 2008, 12:43 PM


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Hmm, I thought it was from his father.

Didn't Eva-chan mention something like that dureing their bath scene?
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spike12
Posted: Feb 3 2008, 12:44 PM


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Yeah, I thought as much.The reason as to why I'm askin' was because a little earlier,I was browsin' thorugh the Negima section at wikipedia to see what's new.And I noticed in Negi' section that they said that He got his scar during the gateport incident.Now it didn't seem right,so (I'll probably catch some flak for this)I went in and edited it by cutting the sentence refering to the scar,and pasted it in the Mahorafest 2nd day section.
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Posted: Feb 3 2008, 12:59 PM


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The wound of his father is on his arm, not his face.
YOu guys have to RE-RE-RE-RE-RE-read the manga again.
EDIT: RE-RE-RE-RE-RE-RE-RE-reading the manga again, I see that it's from Takamichi wounds... you guys can see that in chapter 115, during the final blow against Setsuna: there's a scar there already...
But Setsuna's damage is really deep too, which made us think that should be TWO Scars there.
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QUOTE (Maedhros @ Feb 3 2008, 12:08 PM)
Yes. Setsuna's was the one who made that scar. =]

One could argue that it COULD have been Takamichi who left the scar as when Setsuna cut across Negi's face there was another cut slightly above the one she left.

In chapter 98, after Takamichi struck Negi with an Iaiken his left check started bleeding in the same spot as his scar.

Since the manga never really made a confirmation. It's sort of a toss up to me.
Though I suppose I'd like to think it was Setsuna who gave him the cut.


QUOTE (Trowa)

Hmm, I thought it was from his father.


The one on his right arm is from his father.


By the end of this Manga, Negi's probably gonna have quite a number of scars.
Current count is like 1 on his face and 2 on his arm? (assuming the reattachment is a permanent scar)
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Posted: Feb 3 2008, 04:13 PM


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One could argue that it COULD have been Takamichi who left the scar as when Setsuna cut across Negi's face there was another cut slightly above the one she left.


like they say was setsuna the one who make the scar . NOT takamichi
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QUOTE (ledah @ Feb 3 2008, 04:13 PM)
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One could argue that it COULD have been Takamichi who left the scar as when Setsuna cut across Negi's face there was another cut slightly above the one she left.


like they say was setsuna the one who make the scar . NOT takamichi


I don't believe that anyone actually confirmed that.
Who in the manga said Setsuna give him the scar on the cheek?
There were 2 instances in which Negi's left cheek was cut during the tournament.
One against Setsuna and one against Takamichi.

And it probably is from Setsuna but there were 2 cuts there and now one of them is gone.

I'm not supportive of the theory, it's just if someone were to make the claim, there really isn't much I can say to deny it.
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Posted: Feb 3 2008, 05:18 PM


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From a logical point of view, if one of the scars is gone, them it's that from Takamichi fight, Setsuna's one is far more deep than the other.
Well, here's the image:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8220/aq...c1151617pi4.png

EDIT: Linked, because it's freak'n HUEG...
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QUOTE
I don't believe that anyone actually confirmed that


ok if the img that maedro posted dont work what the hell then ?
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QUOTE (ledah @ Feb 3 2008, 05:35 PM)
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I don't believe that anyone actually confirmed that


ok if the img that maedro posted dont work what the hell then ?

lol.
It proves that Setsuna did cut his cheek, which I never denied.
But it also proves there was another cut on his cheek before that, (note two cuts) one of which was dealt by Takamichi.
I could post the page(s) where Takamichi dealt cheek damage to Negi as well (I already said it was in chapter 98).

I'm just saying the scar could have been from either one of those cuts.


Takamichi injured Negi's cheek.
Setsuna ALSO injured Negi's cheek.
Negi bandaged the cheek covering both cuts.
Negi eventually removes the bandage off his cheek to reveal 1 scar.

Why is that scar 100% automatically Setsunas' when Takamichi dealt a similar cut in almost the same spot?



Now, Maedhros said logically speaking the cut Setsuna dealt looks deeper is more likely to leave a scar and that makes sense but things like that are hard to determine especially with anime/manga logics. Like just because it sounds logical it doesn't necessarily mean that's what happened.
I'm not saying he's wrong but is that something that would hold up in like a court? Is it proof enough? Rather than solid evidence it's like Jello.


Think that's all I'm going to say. It was just a simple point/gesture that there's a possibility that Takamichi could have dealt the scar even if I don't believe it myself.
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Posted: Feb 3 2008, 08:43 PM


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Compare the damage caused by Takamichi's Iaiken to the one caused by Setsuna's fist.

Negi bled only a bit with the Iaiken scratch. It was dry after the match.

Negi was bleeding profusely and a lot with Setsuna's blow. Still bleeding after the match.


Taking it logically, the deeper and bloodier cut would remain after all this time. Hence, Negi's cheek scar is from Setsuna.
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Fry-Bozu
Posted: Feb 3 2008, 10:14 PM


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Save the Catgirls.
Quit using logic.
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Posted: Feb 3 2008, 10:38 PM


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I half suspect that (a) either the scar will be healed by the time Negi's Magic World adventure is over, or (cool.gif a second scar may be added to give it prominence, essentially creating a cross-shape. wink.gif
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Posted: Feb 4 2008, 04:43 AM


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QUOTE (VictorWong @ Feb 3 2008, 10:38 PM)
I half suspect that (a) either the scar will be healed by the time Negi's Magic World adventure is over, or (cool.gif a second scar may be added to give it prominence, essentially creating a cross-shape. wink.gif

Oh gosh... no. dry.gif

I'm firmly in the Setsuna-made-the-scar camp. What Takamachi gave Negi was just a scratch.
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Posted: Feb 4 2008, 12:17 PM


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I'm firmly in the Setsuna-made-the-scar camp. What Takamachi gave Negi was just a scratch.


Same here. And if you look at the position of the bangade on his face just after the tournament, and during his date with Ako, it's clearly covering a lower section of his face, which is where Setsuna hit him (her attack cut him below Takamichi's).
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Posted: Feb 4 2008, 08:29 PM


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But it also proves there was another cut on his cheek before that


was a scratc..... ok ok dont need to tell you the answers , others say it alrdy laugh.gif
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Solomus
Posted: Feb 5 2008, 04:29 AM


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I'd like to be in the setsuna-scar camp, From the look of that image setsunas cut was angled high-to-low, unlike TTTs low-to-high. Negi's scar is low-to-high, so I guess it was TTT who gave it to him.
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Posted: Feb 5 2008, 06:02 AM


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QUOTE (Solomus @ Feb 5 2008, 04:29 AM)
I'd like to be in the setsuna-scar camp, From the look of that image setsunas cut was angled high-to-low, unlike TTTs low-to-high. Negi's scar is low-to-high, so I guess it was TTT who gave it to him.

I can't agree with this. If anything, they are both low-to-high cuts.

When Negi recieves the hit from Setsuna, his posture is such that he is leaning forward and his head is lowered when he dodges Setsuna's hit, given that he was driving forward with both arms together in order to push Setsuna's strike to the side and make her central section vulnerable to a counter-hit.

As such, Setsuna's strike is most likely to hit him from a low-to-high direction. The problem for us looking at it is that it is slightly lower than the original scar that TTT gave him, which means (given that faces are not flat), the lower injury appears to be 'flatter' than the higher injury. But really, when you look at the angle of Negi's head, it's certainly not high-to-low in direction.

EDIT: If you don't believe me, look at the side-on picture in chapter 116 - the two scars are clearly low-to-high, and they are drawn parallel to each other.

EDIT 2: Because I feel like making an argument about this...

Look at the comparsion pictures from page 1 of chapter 116, Setsuna's scar (the one bleeding) is positioned from the centre of Negi's ear to roughly just near the level of his mouth (at the edge of his face in the side-on view).

Then check out the side-on view of the scar on page 7 of chapter 151. Again, the position is roughly from centre of the ear to top of his mouth.

To me, that's good enough for me to accept that as being caused by Setsuna. So there! tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Balthazars on Feb 5 2008, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE (ledah @ Feb 4 2008, 08:29 PM)
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But it also proves there was another cut on his cheek before that


was a scratc..... ok ok dont need to tell you the answers , others say it alrdy laugh.gif

That's fine with me.
I only made the suggestion that a person could possibly say TTT gave the scar.

I always assumed it was Setsuna though.
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QUOTE (Balthazars @ Feb 5 2008, 06:02 AM)
QUOTE (Solomus @ Feb 5 2008, 04:29 AM)
I'd like to be in the setsuna-scar camp, From the look of that image setsunas cut was angled high-to-low, unlike TTTs low-to-high. Negi's scar is low-to-high, so I guess it was TTT who gave it to him.

I can't agree with this. If anything, they are both low-to-high cuts.

When Negi recieves the hit from Setsuna, his posture is such that he is leaning forward and his head is lowered when he dodges Setsuna's hit, given that he was driving forward with both arms together in order to push Setsuna's strike to the side and make her central section vulnerable to a counter-hit.

As such, Setsuna's strike is most likely to hit him from a low-to-high direction. The problem for us looking at it is that it is slightly lower than the original scar that TTT gave him, which means (given that faces are not flat), the lower injury appears to be 'flatter' than the higher injury. But really, when you look at the angle of Negi's head, it's certainly not high-to-low in direction.

EDIT: If you don't believe me, look at the side-on picture in chapter 116 - the two scars are clearly low-to-high, and they are drawn parallel to each other.

EDIT 2: Because I feel like making an argument about this...

Look at the comparsion pictures from page 1 of chapter 116, Setsuna's scar (the one bleeding) is positioned from the centre of Negi's ear to roughly just near the level of his mouth (at the edge of his face in the side-on view).

Then check out the side-on view of the scar on page 7 of chapter 151. Again, the position is roughly from centre of the ear to top of his mouth.

To me, that's good enough for me to accept that as being caused by Setsuna. So there! tongue.gif

*goes and looks* Huh, whaddya know, he's right. Setsuna scar it is!
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Posted: Feb 5 2008, 05:52 PM


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Just got back from wikipedia,seems some nitwad went and undid my edit, dry.gif .So I went back in,re-editited it ,and this time added a reference.Sigh ,some people keep insisting that the world is flat despite the evidence that it's really round. oh well. wink.gif
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