Title: Need some help with tablets (graphic)
alan - January 23, 2010 02:13 PM (GMT)
Hy i am watching this forum for a while and i must admit tahat some pieces of art are incredible. I would like to participate in some of your topics like WSG ( i found WSG has some fantastic ideas and solution to artistic "problems" ).
So to not go too long my main question is, which graphic tablet is best buy in terms of quality and price beacuse my budget is almost at red. Also if you can recommend me internet saler beacuse in my country ( i live in Croatia ) prices are abnormaly high comparing to other countries. I have found some of these on E-Bay so maybe one of them:
VisTablet 12-Inch Tablet
12.1" Slim Digital Graphics Drawing Tablet for Windows & MAC
BAMBOO PEN Digital Graphic Tablet CTL460
So as i said my budget isnt high so i can afford about 150$ for a tablet. THank you for your help and sorry if i made grammar mistakes cause English is not my native language.
Chris Jones - January 23, 2010 03:34 PM (GMT)
Hey Alan, nice to hear your up for the WSG.
Tablets are brilliant, and there are a lot out there on the market, I also had a limited budget and i simply went for the cheapest I could find with the best reviews.
I ended up getting the Wacom Bamboo MTE450 Pen Tablet. It took a little while to get used to but as soon as you get used to it it is brilliant, I have no complaints about this tablet and it has been perfect for the WSG and college work, I think it is absolutely brilliant and highly recommend it. I paid £50 for mine and im pretty sure prices were similar on most web sights.
Have you decided what software you are going to use for your work? I would recommend Corel Painter 11, however everyone has their personal preferences when it comes to software. Painter and Photoshop work very well together.
Anyway good luck man, hope you get what is rite for you.
MarcoSkoll - January 24, 2010 05:55 AM (GMT)
I can't give much advice, not being much of a digital artist, but I'm in the middle of looking at tablets at the moment, so I'll share what information has come up.
The big pieces of advice that crop up in my research seem to be:
- Make sure you're spending enough. A really cheap tablet just won't be up to the job and will just be a waste of your money.
- A tablet of about the same size of your screen helps reduce the learning curve of using it.
With regards to the first point, you seem to be looking at tablets in a decent price range, so that's not a problem.
The second point isn't as important as the first. It's something that if you can stretch to the budget is helpful, but not essential, as you'll get used to the difference between pen and cursor movements in time.
The thing that goes without saying is that you should back up a tablet with some decent software. The best graphics tablet in the world isn't going to do you any favours if you're trying to use it in Microsoft Paint.
(Of course, I've seen some people do some spectacular things with Microsoft Paint, but it takes vast skill.)
|sorry if i made grammar mistakes cause English is not my native language.|
You've phrased a couple of things oddly, and you're not capitalising "I" in the middle of sentences, but I've seen far worse from native speakers.
So, not perfect, but much better than my Croatian.
Truth be told, I couldn't manage to go to any foreign language forum and make a post anywhere near as coherent as yours.
Chris Jones - January 24, 2010 10:55 AM (GMT)
Make sure you're spending enough. A really cheap tablet just won't be up to the job and will just be a waste of your money.
Well I spent £50 on my Bamboo MTE450 Pen tablet and I would say it was the complete opposite of a 'waste of money'. Through college I have used pen tablets of all shapes and sizes, from top of the range to bottom of the range, and I would still say that the Bamboo MTE450 is a brilliant product and is perfect for getting into digital painting, especially if you are on a limited budget and have to buy some software as well. I have had no problems with this tablet, and it perform very well, even up against tablets such as Intuos4, and is much better than tablets in the same price range such as Genius mouse pen and Visa Tablet.
MarcoSkoll - January 24, 2010 01:17 PM (GMT)
Yes, but I'm not saying that a £50 tablet is "too little".
I have experience with tablets in the £20-30 range, and I know they're not up to much. My current tablet was in about that range, and while it's useful for the job of photomanipulation and cleaning up scans, it's not up to doing digital drawing. I've used it for colouring scans, but with its pressure sensitivity issues, that's about as far as its artistic talents go.
Admittedly, these tablets have been relative "no-name" brands, and you're unlikely to go wrong with brand like Wacom, but like with a lot of things, there's a very harsh cut-off point between usable and "scarcely worth the box it came in".
Where exactly that point lies doesn't really matter here - like I've already said, he's clearly above it.
I'm personally angling to spend around £100, but unfortunately, right now, the issue is somewhat moot, as I know I'm going to have to send my laptop back to the manufacturer again in the near future. I sent it back to have problem fixed, and after a month of use, it's clear they've only half-fixed it.
...and as my copy of Photoshop is on my laptop, I can't really make use of any tablet until its back again and working properly.
Chris Jones - January 24, 2010 11:19 PM (GMT)
No worries man I meant no offense with you over what budget was good for a tablet or not, I guess I just took your comment the wrong way. Year bamboo are a great brand, and i would recommend them to anyone looking for a tablet.
With regards to your laptop, I realize for anyone working part time and at Uni or college money is an issue, but if you can find the money to buy a mac, you will never regret it. I saved up for my Mac Book Pro for a long time and I have no regrets, it is honestly the best purchase I have ever made, and will be for many years to come. I have had it for almost a year now and so far not even the slightest hiccup. I am sure you have been in contact with many Mac users and have heard all there is to hear about them, all I will say is you will never go back to Windows if you are into digital art or any other kind of digital creativity.
russ29 - January 25, 2010 05:03 AM (GMT)
Hey Alan, no worries about your grammar as long as we understand what you're trying to say.
Anyway, you could try the bamboo as what Chris said, but I think its better to buy them from stores than Ebay, since you can actually see it first hand and they might let you try it out.
And also, see if you are a really HC digital artist, or planning to be one. If you are just trying out for fun, paying more than your budget isn't going to be good.
But if you are planning for something long term and serious, pay a little more, and you are most likely to have something better.
MarcoSkoll - January 25, 2010 06:13 AM (GMT)
The problem was (and indeed, still is to some extent) the graphics card, not the operating system.
Truth is, mobile graphics cards have a habit of being a bit unreliable - in fact, the card this laptop uses is a pretty close relative of the one in the Macbook Pro. Changing wouldn't guarantee that it didn't happen again.
Either way, that's enough off-topic babble on the subject of my computer.
alan - January 25, 2010 11:16 AM (GMT)
So first of all thank you all for your quick replay to my question.
Altough I finished graphic high school I didnt work in that profession instead I went to the law college. So I have some basic understanding for graphic programs. I planned to use Photoshop and/or Corel painter which I have on my computer so spending money on new programs is not necessary. Mostly I plan using my tablet for fun and relaxing from study so it doesnt have to be, lets say, best on the market. What I need is something with good price and quality. I totaly agree when you say dont buy cheapest thing beacuse it always turns out its not the cheapest, beacuse you must take it to repair or something like that. Main problem in Croatia with graphic tablets is their price and availability ( Bamboo Fun Small Pen & Touch costs 213 $ and the price on Amazon is around 140 $ so its big difference) and there are available in few stores, dont know why is it like that but thats the way it is.
Anyway are you agree that Bamboo is quite good buying ( quality and price ) and one more favour if you can recommend maybe some net store ( if it doesnt violete some forum rule). Thank you for your patience.