Title: The Long War!!
Thanatos Ares - January 5, 2012 08:26 PM (GMT)
it saddens my heart to see so many of my brothers in iron losing the passion for the long war! so i've decided to try and do something about it!!
what was it that made you choose our beloved IVth Legion in the first place?
lets ignore the current lack of legion rules as its a topic that gets to much response imho!
I fell for the cold logic and style of prosecuting the great crusade! the rivalry with Dorns whelps also excites me!!
heres a quote from one of the HH series
"The Unbreakable Litany
From Iron cometh strength. From strength cometh will. From will cometh faith. From faith cometh honour. From honour cometh iron. This is the Unbreakable Litany. And may it forever be so."
Yes we all long for some shiny new rules and models!! but i'm quite happy beating the false emperors lapdogs with a lacklustre codex! (just proves how much better the legions are anyways!)
Never forget Sebastus IV brothers......
Sorceror Fellrust - January 5, 2012 10:47 PM (GMT)
We are the sons of Olympia, the titans of old. Let no wall stand in our path nor redoubt shield them from our wrath. For ten thousand years we have fought, enduring the fires of the warp in our quest to bring low the false Emperor. I fight for iron, to break the feeble imperium of flesh, bound by its own fear.
hushrong - January 6, 2012 12:35 AM (GMT)
One day I painted an Iron Warrior and I was hooked. It wasn't a great mini but it was the first mini I painted of an actual Legion (I had a DIY chapter that I lost interest in) and I loved it. I had chosen to paint an Iron Warrior because I had read and greatly enjoyed Storm of Iron and I had all the paints I needed plus a spare CSM.
After that I scoured the internet looking for anything regarding the IVth Legion.
During the crusade their expertise were called upon and it was thankless. They never seemed to be praised with the glory they were deserving of. Anything they had done seemed miniscule compared to their rivals, the Imperial Fists. Even Dorn went so far to say that any defense he would build could never be broken (WRONG!) and insulted Perturabo. He was even treatedly coldly by his own brothers. As I have read, it was as though the Iron Warriors would be used as a weapon to carve out the realm of the Imperium and then discarded in favor of their rivals.
The Iron Warriors have become bitter, hateful, and cruel justly so. Now they fight the Long War hell-bent on vengeance.
What is not to love about this?
I myself am not playing 40K because i am a bit disenfranchised with the game itself. I lose interest and concentration when playing and the cost to field a desirable force is costing more and more (in my opinion). I still love the lore of 40K and my Iron Warriors (among select others) and hopefully one day I can take up arms for the Long War once again!
Thanatos Ares - January 6, 2012 10:04 PM (GMT)
another quote from a source i can't remember (sorry)
"In the end, Horus was defeated by the Emperor, and the bulk of the Traitor Legions retreated into the Eye of Terror. Before his Legion followed suit, Perturabo devised and enacted the one real victory for the Iron Warriors in the aftermath of the Horus Heresy. He crafted a trap on Sebastus IV, designed to ensnare Rogal Dorn and the Imperial Fists, rivals of the Iron Warriors. The trap was known as the Eternal Fortress, a keep centred within twenty square miles of bunkers, towers, minefields, trenches, tank traps and redoubts. Upon hearing of this, Rogal Dorn publicly declared that he "would dig Perturabo out of his hole and bring him back to Terra in an Iron Cage".
Rogal Dorn expected an honourable battle, but this was not to be. Beginning by isolating the four Companies of the Imperial Fists from their orbital support, Perturabo and his Iron Warriors began to carefully destroy the Loyalist forces piecemeal. Some Imperial Fists managed to penetrate the defences and reach the center of the Eternal Fortress, only to find there was no central keep, simply an open space watched by yet more defenses. The Eternal Fortress was not truly a fortress, as it guarded nothing. It was more of an untreatable cancer. By the sixth day of the siege, Imperial Fists Space Marines were fighting individually, without support, using the bodies of their own battle brothers for cover.
The siege of the Eternal Fortress lasted for a further three weeks, dug in and unable to escape. Relief came in the form of Roboute Guilliman and the Ultramarines, but the siege left Rogal Dorn a broken man, rendered the Imperial Fists Chapter unable to fight for nineteen years, and allowed for Perturabo's elevation to 'Daemon Prince' with the sacrifice of the gene-seed of over four hundred loyalist Marines."
Warsmith Gorrched - January 7, 2012 12:57 PM (GMT)
We first saw that Iron Cage bit in a white dwarf which was later put out into an Index Astartes book.
Lets take a trip in the way back machine....
I was probably 10-12 years old at the time (maybe a little less?) and I had found 40k. Originally I liked the loyalists, specifically the Dark Angles and Space Wolves. I started to build an army and DA ended up being the winner. I found another who was starting up who played chaos (back when chaos was still using second ed. and the rest of the gaming universe had the 3rd ed marine codex along with the 3rd edition rule book).
Every time we played I would look at that old chaos book and read it. The Iron Warriors always stood out. I had always been a fan of heavy weapons and tanks. I fell in love with them. From the paint scheme to how they fought to how they fell. At this time in my fickle young mind I watched the Alien's series for the first time and went to the Nids for a little bit. It didn't last long. The next army was back to Dark Angles but this time I played Deathwing. I still couldn't wrap my head around the armies I was playing. Finally the new chaos codex came out.
I fell in love again with them and haven't looked back. Heavy weapons, robotics, bionics, the fact that they were used, thrown away and just said screw you I'm going to chaos was always a good reason to like them. Plus while I like the chaos gods I didn't really feel that being a pawn was that great.
Insane Psychopath - January 8, 2012 04:13 PM (GMT)
As said else where on the fourms I been collect Iron Warriors for just over ten years now. I've alway been a big fan of Chaos Marines in general when I just started the hobby when i pick up White Dwarf 202.
Pretty much John Blanch art work from this issue which is also in the 2nd ed codex was really cool. It went though conversion idea & some painting idea for most of the Chaos Legion, then shown you some of the studio memeber conversion.
For Iron Warriors. Pretty much it was down to
1: When 3rd ed codex came out a friend of mine/GW staffer that the time converted up some really nice Obliterators for his Thasound Sons, whole army was nice, but it was the Obliterators. Back when we could get up to 6 in a single unit & work complete diffrent from the way they are today/3.5 codex.
This was also before we got the Obliterators models we have today, orignaly once where on 25mm base & smaller.
2: Index Astarties that shown the Iron Warriors. I like the art work, the background, saw they could take more than one unit of Obliterators & a unit of Khorne Bezerker (0-1). I was looking for a army to take to Conflict Scotland 2002, was orignaly going to be Black Legion. But I just like the IW background & as said from seen my friend Obliterator conversion.
Also just the whole way the Iron Warriors fought, being master of seige & trench warfare.
Being Chaos Marines it allow us a lot of conversion which has alway been the main part of the hobby for me since I started 15 year ago!.
Since then as said I been collect Iron Warriors for just over 10 year now (17th Nov). Iron Warriors are among my top three favrout armies. Other being Black Templars (started since the Limited Ed Emperor Champion was release) & then Space Wolves which I started for 2010 tournament session to last year :D
For me in general it alway come down to conversion & game play.
jesseye - March 19, 2012 08:44 AM (GMT)
im new here so this is my first post. yay!! i started my first iron warrior army way back when the realm of chaos books first came out. at the time i was playing fantasy and we decided to try rogue trader. i went to iron warriors because of a banner in one of the books and thought it looked like a fantasy theme to it. the original paint scheme i used was far different than today and it wasnt until andy chambers built his army in the mid 90s that it became what it is today. ive never used another legion and never will however i did build my girlfriend a world eater army and do have a nurgle force but its mostly just for display and has never been used.
deathmonkeymarine - March 30, 2012 10:49 PM (GMT)
What drew my to IW...well that might be a long story ^.^
back when I first got into CSM (Originally a tyranid and edlar player) I thought thousand suns were cool. Eventually with the new codex I decided to sell my T-sons and be done with chaos.
Yet it appeared there was something that drew me to chaos once more. I decided that I would not play "generic marines" but instead I would play a chaos LEGION. I had two; IW and EC.
Eventually my local store closed down and I abandoned the hobby. The game itself no longer was appealing and I felt it was a waste of my money.
Now there is an escalation league being started by some friends of mine. I might be picking up the hobby again and returning to my Chaos marines. Not to win, mind you, but to convert, paint, and collect the models I love.
With that in mind I was flipping though some of my old books when I came across Warmaster Davroth's entry in the apocalypse book. I thought to myself: "Why don't the IW ever lead multiple chaos factions into battle, for surely there are none better, wiser and more charismatic than those of Iron".
I decided to have my own Iron crusade with the core of my force be the Angels of Iron's flame.
Hopefully between 3 jobs and being a full time college student I can continue to build up my legion. XD
Iron within! Iron without!
jesseye - March 30, 2012 11:03 PM (GMT)
ooo gods busy you are. going to college and painting an army is next to impossible. back in the day thousand sons to me was the most visually stimulating before the present incarnation of them being ghost marines. i think it destroyed the character of them but thats me. man it sounds like you got a great idea id like to see it when your ready for your great reveal of it
PassionFruit Power - March 30, 2012 11:11 PM (GMT)
for me it is a long story
well a family friend came over and he collects warhammer 40k and for my birthday a few years ago my grandmother got me a chimera, but she though it was a fully made thing. so when family friend came over he helped me build it and paint it (bright yellow)
then a week or 2 after that i got a friend hooked so in a couple months time we went to GW. We split assault on black reach he got the orks and a got the space marines.
i painted space marines for a while until i got a white dwarf with cool plague marines, so soon after a painted up a few plague dudes. i went to GW last year and one of the people working there has the coolest iron warriors ever. the main thing that attracted me to iron warriors at that stage was his dreadnought(it was running and it had dual chain fist)
now i am with iron warriors because of the full and hazard stripes(i love them)
PassionFruit Power - March 30, 2012 11:12 PM (GMT)
spelling error its fluff not full
jesseye - March 30, 2012 11:23 PM (GMT)
you know i think its time for a new thread. how we got into the actual hobby not iw. what say you?