so i've been playing a campaign against a mate of mine for a while now but he's just been offered 2 grand (yep you read that right!) for his space wolves!!
so we've arranged the end of campaign game for next week! 12k apoc
this is the campaign list
all named IC's and Zeus (a dreadnought)
have individual rules that were drawn up b4 the campaign
can post these if people are interested along w/ fluff
Warsmith
Thanatos Ares - 275pts
HQ
Dionysus Hecate - 210pts (termie dude)
Chronos Hecate - 230pts (termie sorcerer)
(has a coven of aspiring sorcerers in a landraider as a retinue)
Manelaus Orion - 190pts (bike dude)
Memnon Bacchus - 185pts (jump pack dude)
Hades Blood Drinker - 200 (khornate power armour dude)
ELITES
Aggelos Loimos - 240 (nurgle badass)
Ancient Brother Zeus - 220
Dreadclaw
Chaos Dreadnought
2x Dreadnought Close Combat Weapons
Dreadclaw
Chaos Dreadnought
Plasma Cannon, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon
Dreadclaw
Chaos Dreadnought
Plasma Cannon, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon
Dreadclaw
4 Chaos Terminator Champions (Dionysus goes here)
Icon of Slaanesh
4x Pairs of Lightning Claws
5 Chaos Terminator Champions
Heavy Flamer, 2x Combi-flamers, 2x Chainfists
5 Chaos Terminator Champions
Reaper Autocannon, Powerfist, 3x Chainfists, 2x Combi-meltas
5 Chaos Terminator Champions
2x Pair of lighning claws, chainfist, combi-melta
9 Chosen Chaos Space Marines (Thanatos Ares goes here)
Aspiring Champion w/ Pair of Lightning Claws
2x Power Weapons, 2x Meltaguns, 9x Meltabombs
TROOPS
10 Khorne Berzerkers
Skull Champion w/ Powerfist, Meltabombs
2x Plasma Pistols, Personal Icon
10 Khorne Berzerkers
Skull Champion w/ Power Weapon, Meltabombs
2x Plasma Pistols, Personal Icon
10 Khorne Berzerkers
Skull Champion w/ Power Weapon, Meltabombs
2x Plasma Pistols, Personal Icon
10 Plague Marines
Plague Champion w/ Powerfist, Combi-plasma, Meltabombs
2x Plasmaguns, Personal Icon
Chaos Rhino Dedicated Transport
Havoc Launcher, Dozer Blade
10 Chaos Space Marines
Icon of Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist, Combi-melta, Meltabombs
2x Meltaguns
Chaos Rhino Dedicated Transport
Havoc Launcher, Dozer Blade
10 Chaos Space Marines
Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist, Meltabombs
2x Meltaguns
Chaos Rhino Dedicated Transport
Havoc Launcher, Dozer Blade
FAST ATTACK
10 Chaos Space Marine Bikers (Memnon Bacchus goes here)
Biker Champion w/ Powerfist, Meltabombs
2x Plasmaguns
10 Chaos Raptors
Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist, Meltabombs
2x Meltaguns
10 Chaos Raptors (Manelaus Orion goes here)
Aspiring Champion w/ Pair of Lightning Claws, Meltabombs
2x Plasmaguns
HEAVY SUPPORT
3 Obliterators
3 Obliterators
3 Obliterators
Chaos Vindicator w/ Daemonic Possession
Chaos Vindicator w/ Daemonic Possession
Chaos Vindicator w/ Daemonic Possession
Chaos Predator Annihilator w/ Extra Armour, Dozer Blade
Chaos Predator Annihilator w/ Extra Armour, Dozer Blade
Chaos Predator Annihilator w/ Extra Armour, Dozer Blade
Chaos Landraider w/ Extra Armour, Dozer Blade, Havoc Launcher
Chaos Landraider w/ Extra Armour, Dozer Blade
Chaos Landraider w/ Extra Armour, Dozer Blade
10 Chaos Havocs
Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist, Combi-melta, Meltabombs
4x Meltaguns
10 Chaos Havocs
Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist, Combi-melta, Meltabombs
4x Meltaguns
10 Chaos Havocs
Aspiring Champion w/ Powerfist
4x Lascannons
10 Chaos Havocs
Aspiring Champion w/ Powerweapon, Meltabombs
4x Plasmaguns
APOCALYPSE UNITS / FORMATIONS
Chaos Annihilation Force
Dreadclaw Talon
Cult of Destruction
Renegade Stormlord
Renegade Stormsword
Perturabos Wrath Artillery Battery
Consisting of - 3x Renegade Basilisks
totals at 12114
my opponent is 12115
he has a thunderhawk though :(
No points values? Even just totals for each squad is useful.
Drop a few Dreadnoughts, Terminator squads and maybe a CSM squad or two. You're going to need to be pretty brutal to kick 4k points. You've got a LOT of warm bodies on the ground, don't be afraid to take less of each.
didn't post generic points as i thought it was against GW's copyright rules(?)
its gonna be difficult to drop the points, but i may need to re-cost the list firt to double check how much i need to lose!!
Individual point costs aren't allowed; totals are okay. Apparantly individual point costs are the devil because someone could dismantle a list and bypass needing a codex <_<
Aaahhh!
i reckon i need to drop 2k not 3-4(phew)
still need to be fairly brutal tho..
should be able to post my 'final' list later on today as the game is on monday!!
opening post amended as my opponents total is 12115pts
(including his thinderhawk!!)
my total is now 12114pts!!
any hints/tips from you seasoned apoc vets??
The Thunderhawk will be trouble. No doubt he'll take it with the bomb pylons and the Laser Destructor, which basically makes this a flying Titan-killer and infantry-mower that can only be hit with 6's. I'd put your Predator Annihilators on Thunderhawk duty, the TL lascannons will help land those htis and they penetrate on a 4+.
Strategic Assets? Expect your opponent to pull utter pr*ck moves, like Flank Marching twenty TH/SS Terminators onto your rear edge. Focus your fire on pie-slingers and deathstar assault units, he'll undoubtedly have some way to get his killer assault units into your squishy bits, and stopping that is a priority, but he will still lose if you're holding the objectives. Proliferation of extremely powerful pie-plates means that objective holding can be very hard, it sweeps footsloggers off the board, and D-strength ones will all but vaporize most transports. Kill his big guns and any threats to yours, and you will have control of the board.