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 Defeating Spam
zirtoc
Posted: Dec 7 2008, 05:40 PM


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There are certain players online that love to spam, and they'll kill you if you don't know how to defend. I would like to compile a list here of ways to defeat them. Here are a couple of tricks to get started:

1) Shao Kahn's charge - this can easily be defeated by jumpkicking in different directions. People that spam the charge generally don't know how to play the character other than that one move.

2) The Flash - Crouching and defending will work against about half of the Flash players, because Flash has so few combos that work well against turtling opponents. But if you run into someone who's good with a low combo, you need to abandon this strategy! Try standing and blocking instead, and try to anticipate the timing of Flash's moves. Then punish him with your own combo, and go back to blocking.

Playing against a good Flash player is nearly impossible, so if you have any more tips, keep them coming!

3) Scorpion - omg, I hate fighting Scorpion. I think standing and blocking is the most effective against teleport spammers. The problem is, if you stand and block too much, they hellfire you. Then when you try to move out of the hellfire, you get speared...

The best advice I can give is try to think like a Scorpion player. If you get hellfired, you can be pretty sure the spear is on its way. So either move slightly and block, or just throw a projectile at Scorpion to keep him busy so you can creep up.

4) Raiden - Teleporters are so annoying! I've found that using a special right at the moment of teleport will connect, even if the special isn't pointing in the right direction. I've often shot Raiden with Deathstroke's gun, even when I'm not facing him! The sword slide will hit him too, and I'll end up on the other side of the screen from Raiden because he was behind me. It shouldn't work that way, but thank goodness it does!

5) Superman's ground pound - this is the broken move. I have not successfully gotten away from this move yet, but using Flash may be the key.
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alexl86
Posted: Dec 19 2008, 03:43 AM


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I haven't met a single Kahn online yet, so I'm not really qualified to comment on him, so I'll move on.

Amazingly, the only flash I've met online didn't spam. He didn't win any of the rounds either, so...

I've fought a few Scorpion and I've only played one match where I didn't play as him, so I feel qualified to talk about him. If you're standing still and blocking a lot, hellfire is in your future. Scorpion will use it for easy extra damage, some will follow up with spear, but you get time to block it. Teleports can be blocked, though a good Scorpion will probably use the aerial version, which is quicker, or incorporate the standing version into a combo. If you're standing a blocking a lot while he's on the offensive, he may try to slide you, since the slide hits low. Finally, if both players are keeping their distance and walking around in circles, he'll probably wait for you to do a special so he can; a) throw spear and air juggle you, cool.gif teleport and air juggle you, or c) play it safe and hellfire you. After walking around in circles for a while, I've just taken the initiative with a full charge ending in a slide, usually catches them off guard.

Raiden - Raiden is the only character I consistently lose to, mostly because there's a 0,1 second delay and I can't properly get my blocks in after he teleports. However, if you see it coming, there are a few ways around it. Personally, if I'm in the air, I teleport, but not a lot of characters have aerial teleports. If I'm on the ground, projectile or slides should suffice, though there's a chance with a slide that you'll slide in the wrong direction and end up vulnerable.

Superman spamming ground pound... again, I haven't encountered any Superman players who spam ground pound yet. In fact, only one player has ever used the move. I've seen a few solutions, Rage breaks it. Teleporting might help some characters. Projectiles, like Sub-Zero's freeze should work as long as you can get it off before the actual pound. Being Superman and going completely aerial on him should force him to give it up. If all else fail, wait til round 2 and spam him with your annoying moves. If he thinks his ground pounds are annoying, just wait until I start my aerial teleport spamming.

I'd just like to add Sub-Zero to this. He's not really annoying, but I've fought him a lot. For some reason, half the players I fight feel the need to have Scorpion vs. Sub-Zero fights when I go with Scorpion. Anyway, he'll do that freezing himself move a lot, especially when you move near. If you don't touch him, you'll be fine. If I'm not mid combo, which means I'm screwed anyway, I'll hit him with a hellfire. If he teleports near you, he'll probably freeze himself again right afterwards since his teleport is kinda slow. Again, I just hit him with a hellfire or wait until it starts wearing off before I hit him. Some Subbies will start just spamming 4 when the get close, a little lag and this can get you into serious trouble. Just block and counter with a fast move or an uppercut.


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Pyre
Posted: Dec 30 2008, 01:27 AM


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The Flash: BLOCK AND DUCK! Works like a charm, all his speed moves seem to miss when you duck and any that hit will be blocked. Be defensive. fast projectiles and specials are your friends.

Sub Zero: Hit him with projectiles when he freezes himself and constantly sidestep to avoid iceblocks and freezes. Take the opportunity to lay in to him after an iceblock. A breaker fixes his knee infinite, if they do it once stay back and pummel them with long distance moves so they don't get a chance to do it again. Catwoman's whip moves work well here as well as Deathstroke's guns and Shang's fireballs.

Scorpion:If they're spamming teleports just block normally and get in a combo after it's finished. if they love their hellfires sidestep and respond with projectiles. The slide is tricky, especially when couple with the teleport but just do the best you can by blocking and using your best combos.

Projectiles I find help with any spammers.
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GrandPrix08
Posted: Jan 22 2009, 04:26 AM


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This will be a great tips/hints for any newbs at on-line play. Great Job guys. Though I gave up on-line play long time ago. I am just not that good in on-line play no matter whom I chose(MKD that is) and was completely FED-UP with the disconnectors/cheaters on-line. I just can't learn when there are so many cheaters than the truly masterful players who does not cheat. But, oh well.....


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