Oh I'm sure people had a story in which, in the future, certain events were altered for some reason.

One retcon I did was Vextor. In the stories he was first featured in he was 3 separate characters (Vectorman, Vectorius, and Rodjer) whom were brothers, and merged (mind you this is a DBZ parody comic) into Vextor (and Vectorius was the dominant one. He was the one who killed Dingo's father on a train). But at some point I made it canon that Vextor was always Vextor.

The "alternate continuity" I mentioned in another thread involving a series of stories taking place in a way that negates Timothy becoming Dingodragon was also, originally, meant to be a retcon.

Retconned Rek's name and abilities from being a wind based messenger of the heavens to a death spawn, Kathrine's inital plot of attempting to kill the party discretely...like....every other chance she got....and made it like....two times....retconned, and Claude's level of sanity.....and is still trying to find a good balance.....more than I can think of right now

My friends (with whom I initially created the OCs, world, etc. for our project of a game) and I have re-taken the reigns on the project, and we've realized that lots of things (possibly everything) will have to be altered for its benefit.

That is to say, everything will undergo sever "recton" soon.

I kind of had to retcon the entire Federation from the grand place it was before to the corrupt cesspool it is today because frankly.....Communism just doesn't work at all and even I didn't like how god damn perfect the place was...then again I did let most of it get leveled in the original cut so....shyah.... >_>

Ohoo boy, I think I never told anyone about my retcons before considering how the original concept of my current story was... Questionably bad quality/super clich'e/bad character and setting development. You can actually say that it is one of my old shames that I haave decided to do some massive fixing to and came out with something pretty interesting, deep and intense which is known as "Faithful Phantasia" as of today. However, I'll just mention a few retcons at the top of my head based on the older version of my current canon, which was called "Firestarter" before the name change *shot by Stephen King*:

Firstly, it wasn't the magical fantasy feudal era future filled with overpowered super lolis who can fly and spam bullet hell as you know today, but it was rather (believe it or not) a science fiction space age setting, and a clich'e one at that for the most part. There was no "Kyochi" since the setting took place in mostly a planet called "Globia" and other planets since it involved lots of space travel adventures. I'll emphasize more on the concept of these space travel adventures...

a] The main protagonists go on these adventures to thwart the Mint Empire, obviously owned by Dr. Mint, who was the main villain of my old version of my canon. D=

b] The entire fucking galaxy was the equivalent to the main "world" setting, so this posed problems like jumping all over the place and pulling plot devices out of my ass to get the party to jump from planet to planet to thwart Dr. Mint as well as... The main protagonist team travelled in overly flashy and clich'e space vehicles, so yeah... Probably the biggest source of plotholes was from this in fact. D=

c] The setting for the main planet was something like SatAm/Archie Sonic's cold, metallic and dark heavy technological Mordor... And robot mooks galore... And the main characters were rebels against the Mint Empire.

d] Interesting fact... There was no magic used in this old version of my canon since it was the space age techno clich'e where everything is done with technology and metal. D=

However, there was a technology in which one was able to get implants and medicine for physical and psychological enhancements to become superhuman levels of power, speed, durability and other super attributes as well as gain superpowers. Think of it like artificial superpowers (this was way before Mass Effect even existed, btw).

f] Every main character who is important used firearms, especially the non-superpowered ones. Oh, and they were sci-fi clich'e weapons... You know... The impractical charged energy weapons that are theoretically less useful than slugthrowers despite being able to pierce low-grade armor.

g] My old version of my canon had no Gremlins. >_>

...


Now, as for the characters themselves...

a] Dr. Mint was a more serious and scarier villain, somewhat like SatAM version of Robotnik competent and scary, with a vast army of sentient robot soliders of all kinds of assortments, usually something like the clich'e sci-fi archetypes like walkers and 500 foot robots to compensate for something perhaps. Interestingly, his most powerful robots were the only nuke "characters" in the old canon.

b] Travis was the competent player H-Game protagonist-like dude who was like a charmful pimp shota... And was formally THE main character of my old canon. He also was one of the strongest characters on the rebel side.

c] Amarylis was more like Amy Rose and no Haruhi inspiration at the time, but was still a almost Human-looking Fox girl with psychic powers (which were artificial) and was yandere as hell for Travis. She was the fastest character in the rebel side and... Played plenty of damsel in distress moments and needed a lot of saving from Travis, so yeah. D=

d] Outside of Mint's most powerful robots, I had no nuke characters... In fact, most of the main artificially superpowered characters were probably only slightly stronger than say... An average King of Fighter character at best and weren't fast enough to dodge bullets without a shield/jumping across cover and most of them can be insta-killed by nukes or a sniper rifle to the head (though, to be fair, the sniper rifles were beam rifles that can take out a tank in one shot).

f] Gemini was evil back then and gets killed by the rebels instead of being turned on their side... It was also my only nuke character since it is Mint's strongest robot.

g] There were a huge abundance of non-supers in my old canon since artificial superpowers weren't common, meaning a lot of cannon fodder than my new story and more... Government asshole dudes.

h] The gender ratio was more sane and balanced in my older version, also having less lolis except those who were acually little girls by age.


... So, yeah, that's my old version of my canon, which I consider my old shame. Though, someone else who prefers sci-fi stories over fantasy and magic stories would have preferred this version *glances at Darkflares*.

Originally, the world of Animetopia was a giant planet created from an event called the Collision of Dimensions, turning it into a chimera of different anime settings (yeah, I am such a big time crossover fantard, even today). I mixed in original characters of my own with a lot of famous anime characters (including Naruto, but no Bleach, One Piece or DBZ in there thankfully). An army out of multiple heroes was made and their leader was Eijirou Hirosuke, Kaya's father. The world only knows him as Viper Hirosuke since he never reveals it.

Solien, the Transcended Associates and the Infinite Corporations didn't exist back then. There was no Creator as well.

Gabriel Vaulker was the series' major villain.

Make the world more like it's shown in F-Zero/Guilty Gear/Blazblue/Megaman/Anything remotely similar to how they look, make the whole setting stick to ONE FUCKING PLANET, have more than one main villain, Make Travis suck(It's unholy if he doesn't), Make Amarylis suck less and up the power level a tad.

AND WE HAVE A WINNER.

BRING THIS TO CURRENT CANON.

Less Touhou clone plz.

Like a world with an economy is completely fucked by all the robot fighting and sports that consumes everyone's every precious minutes, GG is a fucking space based series, Megaman went to the moon every other game, Fzero was a a fucking space based series, the series has multiple villains you just never read anything, there's no reason for them to be secluded, Travis already sucks, Amarylis doesn't suck, and your fights have generally proven that talent and intelligence > power kthnxbai

Truth to be told, SatAM Sonic was easily the best Sonic cartoon ever (and probably, IMO, one of the best cartoons in the 90's) and its dark, grim sci-fi bran of mordor worked for it pretty well since that kind of setting was considered one of the hottest things during the 90's. That, and it did an extremely good job taking a plotless game and making it into a deep, sympathical and suspenseful cartoon. I kind of wanted to go for that approach for my old version of my canon, but it didn't worked out for me...

No, making it more like Megaman with the whole metallic civilizations where extremely sentient robots with better technology and outnumber mankind 1 to 1000 would make my old version of my canon have more plotholes than it already had, one of the reasons why I resented it in the first place. >_>

F-Zero would be a Yu-Gi-Oh like scenario where games/sports are serious business and the concept being very one-dimensional, so no, even if F-Zero is probably the best racing game series to me. I'll stick with the combat orientation that both versions of my canon were aiming for, thank you.

BlazBlue is cool, better than Guilty Gear IMO, but I think I'm fine with my feudal future setting... Also, didn't you actually resented me giving my characters extremely over-the-top power levels before? <.<

Amarylis being awesome and Travis being suck is already what my current canon has, except, unlike the sucky old Amarylis, Travis does take his levels in badass every now and then. Though, it kind of is hard to make sense of your idea considering that you actually hate Amarylis, so yeah...

I like the way my current canon is and this time I have no regrets about it, unlike my original version.

No, I like me lolis, so I'mma keeping it. =P

... And less Astro Boy clones, plz.

I didn't say make it LIKE the worlds above, I said make it LOOK like above worlds.

I also said up the power level a tad, the current canon is NOT A TAD.



I don't even watch/read Astro Boy.

Oh look at you. Once AGAIN bringing up stuff I already ditched long ago and even ADMITTED to it.

Really, you question my intelligence too much.

How 'bout you two settle your flamewar on PM instead? You two are going to break my good mood from my birthday that happened a few days ago. z_z

Practically the same difference to me, just different wording to render the idea subtle instead.

Ehhh, that's kind of vague really... Tad could just mean make the mooks take the stand-in for the main charecters' power levels and level up the main characters proportionately to keep them mooks. >.<

Here's an interesting fact... Capcom wanted to make an Astro Boy game a while back, but weren't permitted to the rights to do it, so they instead invented their own version of Astro Boy which is Megaman to fill the part... So yeah.

I'll change my tune when you change yours, bucko.

Yea, that's going to end up with one of us deleting the first PM that comes by as proven by Skill's comment above. Sorry.

Just level them up slightly.

I've said my piece, and I've got nothin' else to say really

... But, i wuv my over-the-top speedy battles with nukes, flying, crazy powers and awesome tactics. Ingenuity and power can get along, you know. D=

LIES AND DECEIT!


Then again, you're going for Gensokyo 2.0.



Wait a minute....EVEN TOUHOU HAD A WAY TO BALANCE EVERYTHING.

Yes, it can, I've proven it several times that power and tactics can both be used by my characters (or Skillkill's), especially with the RP battle experiences I had with you, dude. Haven't we already debated on this a few months ago? >_>

Also, that's not really as much as a balance Touhou had going as it is a PLOT DEVICE. Without the Spell Card rules, there would be no fair play between the girls fighting each other at all since they their power levels aren't even proportionate to each other. A certain friend who did a Touhou RP with another person proved that even the Spell Card rules had problems since it he found a loophole to show it's cheap, exploitable and broken despite it being a power limiter.

At least it had something to attempt to balance it at least.

You haven't even proved that the setting is unbalanced. Not trying to start a flamewar but that's literally all it boils down to is an understanding of basic tactics

That's because I don't need to. One look is all you need to know this.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at honestly. You haven't presented anything since Amps called you out.

Call me out where? You're making stuff up again.

Besides, it only works out so well since all the uber powerful stuff rarely appears.

I only need to pop one or two moves on Amps' level a match and I can usually hold my own pretty well dude. I'd like to ask you to stop trying to push my buttons.

He meant the claim you made of my characters using raw power over strategy and tactics argument you made months ago, in which I have disproven you back in that argument and I can disprove you again in this debate as well.

Also, hasn't it kind of occured to you that the high tier stuff are sometimes not meant to be defeatable or, if they are, not meant to be defeated by conventional methods, hence why them being so powerful makes them a more unique obsticle than the standard characters...

Also, again, the Spell Card rules are exploitable in a cheating kind of way... A Touhou RP I've read and the canon itself proves it to me enough to make this claim.

By the way...tactics aren't just a one on one thing.

Please do not lower yourself.

Umm, dude, it was clear that you were provoking it considering...

Haven't we settled this months ago and it was clear that every RP battle I had with you that tactics were being used despite my characters' power levels and yet you claim otherwise...

On another note, we never have covered battle strategy yet since we had that tactics debate.

... And on a related note, despite the much more sane power levels most of my characters from my old canon had, there was actually more raw power over strategy and tactics most of the time ironically enough.

High Power Levels =/= Brawns over Brains

... It just means they can curbstomp much weaker and unprepared folks who are helpless against them if they ever so felt like it.

In otherwords

Kindly point where have I stated that tactics WEREN'T being used.

I only said the power level was ridiculous.

Two completely different statements.

Over-the-top powers and abilities aren't exactly a bad thing as you are trying to make it out to be, it's been done before with good or bad results coming out from it. So yeah, your implication of huge power levels being bad is kind of biased, no?

... Also, the "no tactics" thing was a presumption based off of implications you made from your posts in this topic... And, if every other topic can count, I can actually point out the evidence if you wish.

Ctrl F found no instances of you saying the words, no tactics.

Kane kinda proved that his power level isn't that bad when put into perspective with his erratic tactics.

Not at all