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 The Misconception of God Mode
SOS Mage
Posted: Jan 29 2010, 09:42 PM


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Sure, I have complained about this before, but I felt a topic needed standing to this issue. Not to mention I needed to make a rant here, because rants are cool.

The term "God Mode", similar to the terms "Mary Sue" and "facism", are pretty much misused by many nowadays, particularly those who never actually took the time to look it up. It's normally mixed up with such terms like "overpowered" (and hilariously enough, "Mary Sue"), however, being overpowered enough without any character balance itself CAN lead to the possibility of God Moding much like a Mary Sue can possibly have overpoweredness or be God Moded as well (though there are a lot of Mary Sues who are actually just ordinary humans... Power level wise anyways, not so much in everything else).

The term "God Mode" comes originates from video games that possess cheats that normally is called "God Mode" quite literally. Simply, you are invincible when you activate these cheats, much like a God Moded character is invincible in the story he/she is in. To make things easier to comprehend the term itself, God Moding simply means not allowing your character to have negative actions affect him and denying positive actions to happen to others (bonus points if the God Moder also lets all positive effects happen to them). Heck, your character can be (much like a Mary Sue) a normal human, but if negative results like avoiding all dangers that are targetting them, winning every game they participate in and somehow punching out monster of the week with his bare fists in spite of the fact he is a mere normal human without any consequences for any of these actions can be called God Moding. Being an extremely powerful character alone does not make you God Moded if there are similarly powerful beings in that setting or, even if they were to be weaker than that character, has a very fatal weakness those weaker characters can exploit.

Speaking of which, much like what SkillKill mentioned earlier, God Moding is something that happens within the setting itself. This is why crossovers have these problems (though I never really was much into crossovers since they tend to be f*cking flawed) since characters within the same setting tend to be at least effective against each other to some extent (and even then, perhaps some characters are effetcive against each other while others aren't, but there is still a degree of SOME competetive balance within that setting), however, characters from completely different settings come together into one setting can lead to the "God Moding" issue. Why? Easy, these characters from completely different settings most likely were never meant to function properly together into a single setting. Where one setting has the main characters being on the levels of Gods and Demi-Gods (or at least bordering it) as main characters while another setting has mostly a cast of somewhat superhuman characters, but their power levels are pretty much just above pinnacle human levels at best, this can create a severe balance problem since one group is rendered useless (hence, God Moding on the not-useless side). This is why somebody like Rugal Bernstein, an SNK boss, can be severely overpowered within his own setting for obvious reasons, but if he were to come into the Faithful Phantasia universe then he'd be reduced to Goomba status in that setting, where even the main heroines are pretty much Demi-God level and be able to smere even (Omega) Rugal into a consistancy of chunky salsa with little effort. Of course, most crossovers that want to balance things out tend to nerf the overpowered characters and supe up the underpowered ones, but even then it's flawed (like taking away abilities of the overpowered ones and giving new powers out of nowhere to the underpowered ones or only demanding nerfs, but refusing buffs in spite of how silly it will look).

Well, I think that is about enough for this rant for now, until something else arises as an issue to the misconception of God Moding. Anyone reading this? Discuss. Let's all discuss this.


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Skillkill
Posted: Jan 29 2010, 11:27 PM


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lulz? Someone's a little upset...mind telling what got you so riled up?


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SOS Mage
Posted: Jan 29 2010, 11:30 PM


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Two words... Mugen Genesis.


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Posted: Jan 29 2010, 11:33 PM


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I god mode with William Sirrelevant all the time. But that's the point of his character.

Granted, he's only a trans dimensional imaginary talking volley ball.


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Anima
Posted: Jan 29 2010, 11:40 PM


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I have nothing to add but I wanted to post here anyway
But I did read it


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Skillkill
Posted: Jan 29 2010, 11:44 PM


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PM me the topic please. I think I'm going to have to pimp smack a bitch again...


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SOS Mage
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 12:00 AM


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I kind of have stopped going there over a month ago since MG as pretty ubearable with the sheer amount of pretentious pricks and poor order at that forum in general... Though Shunt gave me rumor that MG is collapsing under it's own karma, slowly becoming a crapsack forum.

Even then, a sour-humored troll from YT called lolmechy, one of those biased guys who are fighting game nuts and random Haruhi hater, only made the forum more unbearable since he pretty much makes the likes of favic more bearable in comparison. Yeah, he's that bad.


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Skillkill
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 12:10 AM


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Ah kay...

Still not sure why they have any right to say anything seeing as they're even worse projectile spammers and they can take a face fuck from an ICBM...


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SOS Mage
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 12:12 AM


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QUOTE (Skillkill @ Jan 30 2010, 01:10 AM)
Still not sure why they have any right to say anything seeing as they're even worse projectile spammers and they can take a face fuck from an ICBM...

LOL, DBZ


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Anima
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 01:05 AM


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Oh yeah, I remember now
Mugen Genisis was GF's forum, huh?
I forgot about that


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Skillkill
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 01:15 AM


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Yeah it was mainly used to inviting everyone who they took issue with to go fuck themselves and to plan how to tell people to fuck themselves with that level of intelligence.


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Posted: Jan 30 2010, 03:44 AM


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Aside from Mugen Genesis starting to fall apart by becoming MI v2, very few of them would actually seriously care about this.


QUOTE (Panzermanathod @ Jan 29 2010, 11:33 PM)
I god mode with William Sirrelevant all the time. But that's the point of his character.

Granted, he's only a trans dimensional imaginary talking volley ball.


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Skillkill
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 04:18 AM


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QUOTE (Darkflare @ Jan 29 2010, 10:44 PM)
Very few of you actually seriously care about what I just said.

Edited for accuracy.

I'm not sure what you're getting at anyway. If we were seeking their approval we'd be on their forum sucking their cock.


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SOS Mage
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 09:13 PM


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Having incompetent Moderators can do that to a forum. I mean look at what happened to Sonic Zone Forum for having Mods like MI and MG... he only good Mod at MG was AOKManiac anyways.

Also, my response to Panzer's reality warping volleyball...

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WILSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.... And now, could we get back onto topic? =3


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Posted: Jan 30 2010, 09:16 PM


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QUOTE (Skillkill @ Jan 30 2010, 04:18 AM)
QUOTE (Darkflare @ Jan 29 2010, 10:44 PM)
Very few of you actually seriously care about what I just said.

Edited for accuracy.

I'm not sure what you're getting at anyway. If we were seeking their approval we'd be on their forum sucking their cock.

I'm getting at that Amp's reason for the rant was...um....strange.





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SOS Mage
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 09:21 PM


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QUOTE (SOS Mage @ Jan 29 2010, 10:42 PM)
Sure, I have complained about this before, but I felt a topic needed standing to this issue. Not to mention I needed to make a rant here, because rants are cool.

  The term "God Mode", similar to the terms "Mary Sue" and "facism", are pretty much misused by many nowadays, particularly those who never actually took the time to look it up. It's normally mixed up with such terms like "overpowered" (and hilariously enough, "Mary Sue"), however, being overpowered enough without any character balance itself CAN lead to the possibility of God Moding much like a Mary Sue can possibly have overpoweredness or be God Moded as well (though there are a lot of Mary Sues who are actually just ordinary humans... Power level wise anyways, not so much in everything else).

  The term "God Mode" comes originates from video games that possess cheats that normally is called "God Mode" quite literally. Simply, you are invincible when you activate these cheats, much like a God Moded character is invincible in the story he/she is in. To make things easier to comprehend the term itself, God Moding simply means not allowing your character to have negative actions effect him and denying positive actions to happen to others (bonus points if the God Moder also lets all positive effects happen to them). Heck, your character can be (much like a Mary Sue) a normal human, but if negative results like avoiding all dangers that are targetting them, winning every game they participate in and somehow punching out monster of the week with his bare fists in spite of the fact he is a mere normal human without any consequences for any of these actions can be called God Moding. Being an extremely powerful character alone does not make you God Moded if there are similarly powerful beings in that setting or, even if they were to be weaker than that character, has a very fatal weakness those weaker characters can exploit.

  Speaking of which, much like what SkillKill mentioned earlier, God Moding is something that happens within the setting itself. This is why crossovers have these problems (though I never really was much into crossovers since they tend to be f*cking flawed) since characters within the same setting tend to be at least effective against each other to some extent (and even then, perhaps some characters are effetcive against each other while others aren't, but there is still a degree of SOME competetive balance within that setting), however, characters from completely different settings come together into one setting can lead to the "God Moding" issue. Why? Easy, these characters from completely different settings most likely were never meant to function properly together into a single setting. Where one setting has the main characters being on the levels of Gods and Demi-Gods (or at least bordering it) as main characters while another setting has mostly a cast of somewhat superhuman characters, but their power levels are pretty much just above pinnacle human levels at best, this can create a severe balance problem since one group is rendered useless (hence, God Moding on the not-useless side). This is why somebody like Rugal Bernstein, an SNK boss, can be severely overpowered within his own setting for obvious reasons, but if he were to come into the Faithful Phantasia universe then he'd be reduced to Goomba status in that setting, where even the main heroines are pretty much Demi-God level and be able to smere even (Omega) Rugal into a consistancy of chunky salsa with little effort. Of course, most crossovers that want to balance things out tend to nerf the overpowered characters and supe up the underpowered ones, but even then it's flawed (like taking away abilities of the overpowered ones and giving new powers out of nowhere to the underpowered ones).

  Well, I think that is about enough for this rant for now, until something else arises as an issue to the misconception of God Moding. Anyone reading this? Discuss. Let's all discuss this.

^ The bold highlighted text says it all.

Also, Darkflares, asides from the fact that you should know I hate MI with passion that you should also know I am a weird and bored person in general.


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Posted: Jan 30 2010, 10:05 PM


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Well the thing is I can't discuss because you sort of used my argument.. D=

The closest I've got to a god modder is Reks and while he does AOE fight I can't really say if he'd be strong enough to solo any of Amp's characters and with a reasonable amount of effort my post story versions could take him out so it's really more, who reached their peak, when at my point...


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SOS Mage
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 10:13 PM


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Hey, I gave you credit, didn't I? =P


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Skillkill
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 10:25 PM


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TRUE BUT I HAZ NO MATERIAL ;_;


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SOS Mage
Posted: Jan 30 2010, 10:28 PM


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LOL, I guess... I guess you can rant about DBZ perhaps?


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